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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 23 heures
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LikeABoss</b></div><div>I think there are potentially more reasons to trade him that you want to consider, but that's more of a mental block than a real reason to not trade him. I'd say his contentious contract negotiations is at least 1 reason...

I get all your stuff about Gudas, I figured every player you got was younger than Gudas, and on an expiring deal except Walman who has the same term as Gudas left. They can all be flipped for probably more than Gudas with retention, but since you guys expect to make the playoffs next season I can see why that wouldn't have much value... I look forward to the Ducks getting an additional 32+ points next season!

Anything reported about Yzerman's thoughts on a player is probably a lie unless you have a direct quote to reference or video of him saying it. He's kind of known for running a very tight ship.

Again 2 first round picks seems like more than what Chicago got for DeBrincat. That's a real trade that happened. I think your hypothetical about Seider doesn't help your argument, because while I'd certainly entertain ANA's next 2 first round picks for Seider, along with whatever you want to throw in, I'd have to do a bit more digging to see who's in this year's draft and next year's. Granted the main reason is ANA's next 2 1st round picks are quite a bit more valuable than Detroit's</div></div>

The contract negotiations aren't a reason why he would be traded. Verbeek basically said he wants Zegras to be a better player away from the puck. Zegras mentioned that he is working on that. Once he improves there, he will likely get a big long term extension when this contract is up.
Yzerman, like Verbeek since they are buddies, likes two way players. That's why he drafted Danielson and Kasper.
Chicago got 7th overall plus more for Debrincat. Just "two first round picks" is not the same.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 23 heures
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LikeABoss</b></div><div>Fair, I also heard Konecny and Ristolainen might be on the table for a Zegras deal. I'm not sure what 2 1st round picks is worth, but just starting there, I think you'd be close to a fair trade with Philly.

Ferraro is a reliable shutdown D that can eat a bunch of minutes regardless of who his partner is. Walman is okay with Seider, but I think Edvinsson should be on the top pair. Ferraro would probably benefit from less minutes/wear and tear from physical play, and would be the perfect insulation to protect Sandin Pellikka. I think that would be a lot more utility with a top 4 of Edvinsson Seider, Ferraro SDP, than with Walman Seider, Edvinsson SDP.

Kane can be LTIRetired too if he starts to fall off. He has a legit issue that will likely only impede him more as he continues to play. They could also LTIR him and add some big fish at the TDL, just so Kane can be fresh for the start of the playoffs:cool I think a lower AAV longer term contract might be the better route, especially with the cap going up.</div></div>

Neither of those players from Philly we should target, our team isn't good enough to go big game hunting. Trading top prospects/ picks will shorten our window, which hasn't even been opened yet. I could maybe see a world where Risto is a target for cheap with a bit of retention but he's not that good.
I have no issue with Ferraro but Wallinder could be better than him by the end of next season. I do like how physical and defensive play though. I do believe we need to be more physical and better defensively.
Can't just LTIR a guy if he isn't hurt and he'll want to play if he can. I'm pretty sure he would be okay with a shorter term deal, he knows his situation.
This team is really frustrating as a fan. Rebuilds take so long and this one is no exception. If we start trading picks and prospects for aging players, we will never be a contender and just be doomed as a borderline playoff team.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 24 heures
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LikeABoss</b></div><div>I was kinda guessing, not really a huge fan of Zegras but I love Gudas. I was going off a random article I found for a ballpark:

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/what_would_be_the_potential_trade_value_of_trevor_zegras_to_the_canadiens/s1_17203_39928766

I figured Burger + Walman &gt; Farrell + Harris, and the picks are also comparable. From the Wing's perspective I was thinking Kane might be able to rekindle Zegras' game, but personally I wouldn't want Stevie to bet the farm on Zegras.

I was more focused on the Kane part, I read something about him wanting term, which Stevie has been averse to doing. Thanks for the feedback though!</div></div>

First mistake is thinking this article has any weight. Alot of these writers don't know **** about fcuk. None of the pieces mentioned in that article would likely have any interest to Anaheim other than slight add ons. Reference the Drysdale - Gauthier trade as reference. That's what Anaheim will be looking for, high end young assets not depth players and mid picks. Berggren wouldn't hold much value to them, they have other similar players, he isn't anything special. He is skilled and has shown potential and that's why we also shouldn't trade him. Ducks also currently have 5 left handed defensemen on the roster, Walman doesn't have any value to them.
Ferraro &gt; Walman is debatable but why do it? Walman plays well with Seider and is a good and cheap stop gap for Edvinsson. Why mess with that?
If Patrick Kane wants 5 years, we should stay far away. Could be still be good then? Sure. But the risk is much higher than the reward. Will it suck to see him play elsewhere? Yes. If he doesn't want to sign a reasonable deal then let him walk, it's not worth the cap implications of the future. Chicago wouldn't be trading for him either.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 13 h 4
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>I don't know what you are yapping about, I haven't posted a Zegras trade in months and have actually agreed with the evaluation of OldNYfan's opinion on a fair trade. I also agree that Montreal and Anaheim aren't really good trade partners since both are in about the same spot in their rebuild and looking for similar peices (1 or 2 young top 6 forwards) and have the same pieces to trade (mostly LHD prospects and picks). What I said on this thread was meant more as a joke and because GeneralLandro called Barron a bleh RD. It's not that Barron is a bad RD he is just not as flashy as many other 2 way D men, he is more of a cautious calculated 2 way D man like Petry was for the Habs. I know that every Ducks fans want Reinbacher + 2nd or something similar to that (as they should) but valuewise Barron + a late 1st is the equivalent of that butthe Habs aren't going to be willing to give up that type of package unless it's for Carlsson not Zegras (which the Ducks wouldn't do either). I know everyone wants the sexyest package possible but that's just not gonna happen between two teams in the same situation. That's why this is such a hotly contested trade on both sides, everyone wants to win the trade instead of both sides breaking even (which teams in similar positions are gonna have to do, if a deal is to be made).

I am sorry to Ducks fans who mistook my earlier comment as being an entirely serious response it was all just in fun to lighten up the thread a bit.</div></div>

I didn't say anything about you. Just in general Habs fans keep posting these trades. Alot of them are on here frequent enough to know, yet they keep doing the same thing.
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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 9 h 42