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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>math731</b></div><div>If its such a win for MTL, why would you make this trade as COL? MTL isnt doing that. Target another player or change your offer. Seriously, telling that Zadorov is a first pair d just show how delusional you are</div></div>
First of all I'm a Bruins fan if I was at Avs fan I would not want this deal to go through. The only reason I would is because They cant protect 4 defenseman in the expansion draft which is why they have been rumored too be moving Zadorov. If you can read, I said he is a top 4 defenseman and has the ability to become a top pairing shut down guy.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OkBoomer</b></div><div>We would never take that because we have Romanov, Mete, Chiarot and Kulak all battling for a spot on the left side right now and Harris, Norlinder, Struble, etc. all making the jump very soon. As for the right side, Weber, Petry, Fleury, Marchenko probably, etc. battling and Brook, Juulsen, waiting. The first is a low first round pick which is a hit or miss so I don't think MTL would even consider the move.</div></div>
As for the people competing for spots none of them will be top 4 ready in the next year, probably 2. Zadorov can step in now and will make Montreal much more competitive.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>First of all, the roster balance. Skjei and Fleury are both LD, Carolina have literally 600 of these. From Slavin, Gardiner, Skjei, Fleury, Bean, etc, this just opens up space. The value back may be a little off, but the idea for Carolina was more to open the door for Bean who has been the AHL's best D man by some margin this year</div></div>
But right now Carolina's position of strength is their defense. I don't see them deteriorating that just to make space for one guy to come up from the AHL. Like you said they have a log jam on the left side. That is much better than having a guy get injured with no one to replace them. If there going to make a trade from their defense it will be to trade from a position of strength to fill a position of weakness, whether that would be goaltending or an upgrade to their forward group. But trading a defenseman for a pick and mediocre prospect is not worth it for the right now. It would make more sense for them to trade Fleury for Cayden Primeau and a 2nd or 3rd, at least Primeau is possibly an NHL ready goalie and could be a strong starter in the league down the road.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Nylander, Johnsson, Kapanen, Spezza, Kerfoot and Muzzin are all on 'team friendly' deals. They arnt steals, but they are not even remote over payments. Tavares took less money from toronto than offered by other markets and Matthews contract is fine. Marner is the only over pay. And the funny thing about having 4 elite scoring players is that you do need to pay them like that, especially when they all come due at the same time. The only one of those Dubas had any control over was Tavares.
Next year Tampa has the same issue only 9.5 million of theirs is taken up by a goalie who isnt worth that. They are also paying 3 guys 5+ million to play in their bottom 6 most games. I'd rather over pay Marner by 2 million than over pay Palat, Killorn, Mcdonagh and Tyler Johnson by 1.5 million each, or Jamie Benn and Joe Pavelski by 3 million each, or Bobrovski, Matheson Yandle and Straleman by 3 million each.
at least the leafs players are earning their money most nights</div></div>
Muzzin is signed at 5.6 until he is 35. That is not team friendly, Johnsson and Kappenen have bridge deals that are market value I.E not cap friendly. Spezza is a team friendly contract, and Kerfoote is an over payed 3C, Toronto can not afford to pay their 3C more than 3M when their top two make a combined 22M. So the only 'Team friendly' Contract was Spezza.
Toronto screwed them selves with Kadri they had a great 2C (50-60pt excellent two way center) on an amazing contract that they completely got screwed up when signing Tavares. As nice of a player Tavares was to come along he completely screwed up their cap situation. That is why you rarely see big name free agents moving in the offseason cause it either screws up teams or teams that are competing cant afford it, and when a lot of money is given to FA's it tends to back fire, look at Pavelski, Backes, Lucic, Neal, ect. Instead of Matthews wanting 10M like Eichel, he immediately wanted more than Tavares. Then instead of Marner wanting 9M like Rantenen or even lower he jumped up cause everyone else was payed more. Without Tavares Toronto Essentially would have saved roughly 15M on the cap and would be able to bolster their defense and have a much more complete lineup. Instead now with each season they become more top heavy, they still have no defense and no plan going forward with how too deal with upcoming UFA's, they only thing they can do is pray the Cap Jumps up significantly, WHICH it will not do with the economy the way it is right now.
Either way back to the original topic of this conversation, Mikheyev the same as Zaitsev when he came over as a 24 year old will be getting a reasonable contract for 3 years similar but slightly less than Danton Heinen or he will take 1 year at roughly 1.5M to prove him self before another big jump. Otherwise he will go back to the KHL.