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Armchair-GM
23 sept. 2020 à 12 h 21
Sujet:
Nuck Feasible dreamin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ragger_lord</b></div><div>Why not? the Rangers aren't going to want to pay Hank 8.5mil to be their 3rd string goalie. In getting Eriksson they save cap space and get a player that will actually play.</div></div>
The difference is, Eriksson is under contract for how many more years????? While Hank is on his last year. As someone said above. Buying out Hank is 5.5m this year and 1.5m next year. I'll take that over being saddled with Loui's contract any day. Unless you want to really sweeten the pot for us to take the longer contract (and even then, if you added a 1st, I still would be disappointed if NYR mgmt actually accepted it.
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Armchair-GM
11 sept. 2020 à 12 h 57
Sujet:
I dont know
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yeeeeeeeeeetttt</b></div><div>we dont want howden, just give us a future third with smith and sure, but taking back Gaborik also does nothing for us because hes on LTIR and Eugene doesn't pay him anyways.</div></div>
Is the LTIR payouts an insurance thing then? I thought owner was still on the hook for at least some of it.
I have no problem with a '21 3rd+Smith for a '21 6th exchange.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 sept. 2020 à 12 h 48
Sujet:
I dont know
Whoops, Georgiev trade got overlooked. He's gone to DET for 2nd 2021 + 3rd 2020.
As stated up top, 7th D is whatever random D/vet you can get to sign for league minimum.
Fast's (agent's) asking price is horse ****, but I could see him getting 3-3.25m in FA. If he wants to stay a Ranger, 2.5m is the number for me.
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Armchair-GM
30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 9
Sujet:
1 trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JumboJoe</b></div><div>fair point, but in this scenario you have 2.7 million left in space which is enough to keep Lemieux and Strome</div></div>
It is enough to keep Lemieux, but not Strome. He has arbitration rights and easily gets 4+m/1yr.
But again the point isn't strictly value/money/cap. It's, where do those 2 players fit on the roster assuming we traded picks for Nuke/Jost? Strome would fit for sure as 3c (again, he actually doesn't fit cap wise though), while Lemieux, well, he would fit MAYBE as the 4LW, but I personally am pretty happy with Gettinger there.
Unless you're saying, just to not make the trade at all and keep Lemieux/Strome, while not acquiring Nuke/Jost, but again, my point is which team is better AND cheaper, and the answer is, after the trade happens, NYR are a better team on both counts.
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Armchair-GM
30 juill. 2020 à 15 h 59
Sujet:
1 trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JumboJoe</b></div><div>New York loses this trade imo</div></div>
Strictly from a value point of view, I do not disagree with you.
From a "what fields a better team on the ice for NYR, one that trades those players, or one that retains them?" - I think the answer is the former.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juill. 2020 à 15 h 51
Sujet:
minor tweaks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>So you borrowed the earlier trade of:
Jost for Lias + 3rd + 3rd* (upgrades to a 2nd if Jost gets 35 points)
... which is fine...
.... But adding to that condition with Nichuskin also needing to hit 30 points, while including Kamenev + Nichuskin for Lemieux... makes the trade a big no from Colorado.</div></div>
What I actually did was borrowed from that earlier trade, and added Kamenev to it, which I thought was approximately reasonable. (clearly noted above)
I went with Lemieux for Nichushkin straight up, admitting that it was close, and that extraneous factors could be considered when discussing the trade. I also specifically noted that the additional condition for Nichushkin could be removed during negotiations. (clearly noted above)
Entirely reasonable things that I did there, that can be discussed and negotiated on, as just because one fan agreed with a trade in another thread doesn't mean that it is cemented and the only fair/reasonable trade available.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juill. 2020 à 15 h 47
Sujet:
minor tweaks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Not really remotely close. Let's say the Tampa pick is idk 26th? The cost of jumping from 34 to 26 is....pick 33 lol
<a href="https://bluebulletreport.com/2019/06/05/2018-19-draft-model-update-part-iii-blue-bullet-draft-pick-value-chart/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://bluebulletreport.com/2019/06/05/2018-19-draft-model-update-part-iii-blue-bullet-draft-pick-value-chart/</a>
Sorensen is a winger who was below replacement level this season, there's really no place for him in the lineup.</div></div>
Fair enough, and useful tool...however, realistically what do you think the org will settle for (assuming no team gives up a late 1st (i.e. Min with Pitts or SJ with TBLs), and assuming the Org wants Strome gone as bad as you do (which they likely don't but we'll know in a few months), what would be a fair settling point? It's kind of a "can't have your cake and eat it too" situation here...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juill. 2020 à 15 h 26
Sujet:
minor tweaks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Rangers consider the Colorado trade and quickly decline the San Jose deal.</div></div>
I'm actually surprised you feel that way about SJ deal.
You think the difference between SJS 2 and TBL 1 is not negated by Sorenson?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 40
Sujet:
minor tweaks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JumboJoe</b></div><div>good trade San Jose accepts</div></div>
Happy to hear it. I think these Strome trades can get a bit crazy, but the valuation here is just about spot on imo.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 36
Sujet:
OILERS FANS- Lets work out a Puljujarvi Swap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BootBoi</b></div><div>Pulijarvi+Laggesson+3rd round 4 Buchnevich?
Pulijarvi 4 Lemieux+2nd round?</div></div>
The Rangers don't really have room for PJ anymore...we have Buch, Kakko, Gauthier now, and Kravtsov coming up. He doesn't fit unless we trade one of them.
The only one we would trade would be Buch...and the price for Buch would be something like PJ+2+3 for Buch.
EDM : NYR incl PJ just doesn't work anymore.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 28
Sujet:
minor tweaks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>moli92</b></div><div>Not a fan of trading Nichushkin at all and I dont like Andersson very much. I would do Jost + Kamenev for 2nd+3rd+4th though</div></div>
I understand not wanting to trade Nichushkin. If I was you, I wouldn't want to either; he's a fancy stats wet dream at an affordable price that can play all situations and easily plug holes up and down the lineup. I'm a huge fan of his.
I think the value is pretty much there, but declining on account of team needs/desires/preference, totally reasonable.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 21
Sujet:
minor tweaks
Kamenev is practically a throw in.
Including a 5th or 6th takes care of that disparity easily.
Half of the COL ACGM's either throw him in a random trade, or don't trade him AND don't re-sign him, or re-sign him and then leave him in the minors.
And I included in the description above that a reasonable negotiation would be to remove some of the conditions (which were that they would be UPGRADED on condition, not that they were conditional to be included at all...)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 17
Sujet:
Combining some deals with the Avs Ive been seeing
I'm not high on acquiring any defensemen, unless it's a trade like DeAngelo : Hanifin.
In my opinion, we have the future defense core already in the system. One of Trouba/DeAngelo moves to the left and our top 4 is SOLID in a couple years (Trouba, Fox, DeAngelo, Miller). Then we have further depth options with Rykov, Hajek, Lundkvist, Reunanen, Robertson.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 15
Sujet:
minor tweaks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McRanteskog</b></div><div>COL declines.
Jost > Andersson
Nuke > Lemieux</div></div>
That is why I have 2 3rds attached to Andersson for Jost
And I admitted that Nuke>Lemieux, but the gap isn't so wide that something can't be worked out. From a pure value point of view, I think it is extremely close. What is a reasonable counter?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2020 à 16 h 55
Sujet:
going by who the coach and fo seem to prefer
You and I both!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juill. 2020 à 17 h 18
Sujet:
Lemieux Suspended 2 Games in SCQ
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>I’d rather do kravtsov- chytil- kakko
Howden-mckegg- gauthier</div></div>
Oh, I agree I would love to see Krav get in, but I was operating on the assumption he would not, and we only had the usual suspects to work with. If he gets a roster spot, I would actually prefer:
Kravtsov Chytil Kakko
PDG McKegg Gauthier
That 4th line is better with PDG than with Howden imo
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juill. 2020 à 16 h 38
Sujet:
Lemieux Suspended 2 Games in SCQ
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>I'd still rather do
PDG chytil kakko
McKegg howden gauthier</div></div>
PDG Chytil Kakko
Howden McKegg Gauthier
would be my preference.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juill. 2020 à 16 h 22
Sujet:
some new some repeat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jah1722</b></div><div>ANA is laughing at this offer too. Terry doesn’t play C. He’s not a 4th liner and the ducks don’t need another middle 6 fwd. They pass.</div></div>
Appreciate the insight on Terry being a Wing not a C. I just looked deeper at his stats and saw that. I haven't watched them play, so I was going strictly by TOI and pts: looked like a bottom 6 player to me. Strome also isn't a middle 6 player, he is a top 6 player, but as I said: I don't know what ANA 5 year outlook is, so if they don't have a need/spot for him, that's fine.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2020 à 16 h 55
Sujet:
87 percent NYR dont win pick1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>No, he isn’t ED exempt and doesn’t have a spot on the club so he’d be Grand Rapids bound and wouldn’t be getting prime minutes. We just aren’t a great fit for him anymore. Georgiev would be one of the only things of interest that your shipping off.</div></div>
Fair enough, appreciate the insight.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2020 à 16 h 55
Sujet:
87 percent NYR dont win pick1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RawZuccSauce420</b></div><div>Change the Tampa pick to our 2nd rounder and maybe.</div></div>
Strome without the 5th, for your 2nd + COL 2nd.
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Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2020 à 14 h 33
Sujet:
87 percent NYR dont win pick1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DoubleADoubleK</b></div><div>Trading Georgiev makes zero sense</div></div>
I see this a lot, and I used to agree, but the more time I have spent thinking about it:
If you think Georgiev can be a top 30 goalie in this league, then you trade him.
Lets say you re sign him for 2 years, AND lets assume that he gets 20-30 games in the '21 season, and another 15-25 in the '22 season prior to the TDL. (The biggest assumption there is that somehow someway Hank is not playing at all in '21).
Now, at that point in time you are trading him. Period. There is 0 reason to keep him. 1) He wil want to be a starter on another team. 2) His value will have gone up slightly. 3) If you re-sign him, he will demand to be paid, but at the end of the '21 season, Shesty should have been locked up long term for 4-5m/8. Then you are paying too much for a 2nd goaile that will play 25ish games.
So the biggest things to consider now become: 1) How much will his value have gone up after those 40-50 games, and 2) If you traded him as proposed right now, do you feel comfortable with a UFA backup goaltender for '22, or do you feel comfortable with a callup like Wall or Huska, or do you not feel comfortable with either?
Unless the answer to question 1) is that his value has gone up to warrant a mid-late 1st rd pick, then it isn't worth hanging on to him.
Of course that is my opinion, but I have spent a lot of time going back and forth on the issue and have settled on this perspective for now.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2020 à 14 h 10
Sujet:
87 percent NYR dont win pick1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>I'd want 2nd+3rd for Faksa. Howden works as the 3rd.</div></div>
The lowest reasonable trade for NYR is Howden +2nd for Faksa + 3rd. If that is still too much then it probably isn't happening.
Even NYR might say no to that one actually.
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Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2020 à 14 h 9
Sujet:
87 percent NYR dont win pick1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>Would rather hold onto the 2nd round pick instead of Andersson. It was Holland/Wright that were high on him during the trade so you’d probably be best trying to trade with Edmonton.</div></div>
Would you do it for the 2 3rds?
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Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2020 à 13 h 55
Sujet:
87 percent NYR dont win pick1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Pretty much all of these look good.
The Ottawa trade does not. Smith vs. Anisimov is pretty even, Rangers adding way too much there.</div></div>
I changed it to Smith+4th for Anisimov straight up. I don't think Ottawa has any real incentive to do this trade, so there has to be something of value going to them to make them interested.
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Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2020 à 13 h 49
Sujet:
87 percent NYR dont win pick1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>No from DAL. Make it Howden+2nd and they might bite.</div></div>
I would do Howden +4th for Faksa straight with no pick coming back.
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