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Forum: Armchair-GM6 juin 2022 à 3 h 57
Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars 2022 à 8 h 42
Sujet: playoffs or someone is fired aka holland
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>How many minutes was risto playing? A GM him sees risto as a physical dman who logs heavy minute. They're wrong but that ls what they see.

<strong>Barrie is</strong> seen a female dog <strong>playing on the 3rd pair,</strong> making too much money. Not my fault GMs don't know how to use underlying numbers.</div></div>
This isn't strictly true though. Tippett had Barrie and Bouchard sharing the 1st pair right side, with the other playing 3rd pair (Ceci on 2nd pair). This could have been contributing to Barrie's average season.

Since Woodcroft took over Barrie has spent most of his time with Nurse. With 8 points in 12 games, he seems to be back on track.

Nice job ignoring my earlier post, BTW.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 mars 2022 à 9 h 6
Sujet: playoffs or someone is fired aka holland
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>lmao. No one is giving you anything for Barrie. 3rd pairing dman making 5.5 mil with term. It will cost you to move him.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datmonkey91</b></div><div>I never said Barrie was good, he's still an NHL dman just a sheltered role with pp time now. I agree that his contract is bad but you rarely see NHL calibure players being a cap dump now. Plus we've seen worse trades involving worse dmen before. I don't think there's a trade in recent memory where a team had to add value for another team to take an NHL player. Maybe Barrie won't get a 2nd, but a 3rd is more probable considering the Keith and Schmidt trades.</div></div>
Barrie is quite literally one of the best offensive defensemen in the league and has been for nearly a decade. Just because he's experiencing a down year doesn't change the fact that he's elite offensively.

He's not elite defensively, but everyone knows that already. If he was, he'd be getting paid $9M rather than $4.5M a season. At this rate he's NOT a cap dump.

Here's an interesting comp: John Klingberg. Barrie is having a better season by GF% Rel (he's +4.00 while Klingberg is an atrocious -9.97), he's better by xGF% Rel, SCF% Rel and HDCF% Rel too. His scoring rates are similar (1.48 P/60 in all situations vs 1.61 for Klingberg), while being much better historically. Their zone starts are similar (Klingberg starts are weighted towards the offensive zone slightly more than Barrie's) and both have faced Elites in similar proportions (33% for Barrie, 32.8% for Klingberg).

Why, then, is Klingberg expected to go for a King's ransom at the deadline and then sign for well in excess of Barrie's $4.5M, while Barrie is considered a cap dump by this site?
Forum: Armchair-GM11 mars 2022 à 22 h 46
Sujet: playoffs or someone is fired aka holland
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>No, no fan base wants barrie at 5.5. But I guess all other fan bases are wrong except the mighty oilers</div></div> You are correct, "no fan base wants barrie at 5.5" "IDK if Karmanos would give up a second, but some team would."
What do we know, nothing.
Think back just 6 months all Buffalo fans were willing give up on Skinner and Okposo.
Think back 9 months, all Buffalo fans thought Ristolainen could only be moved if Buffalo added an incentive.
Think back 3 years, all Buffalo fans thought Thompson was trash.
What do fan bases know? Not much.
Some GM will give up a second or more for Barrie, he is an elite offensive RHD having scored more pts than ANY defenseman last year.
If his defense was solid, he would have been given a $9,000,000 contract.
Let me close, I never gave up on Skinner or Okposo, I predicted Ristolainen would return more than Reinhart, I kept telling Buffalo fans big players take longer to develop.
I have been wrong in the past and past predictions do not guarantee future ones will be valid.
So sure "<strong>no fan base wants barrie </strong>at 5.5" "IDK if Karmanos would give up a second, <strong>but some team would.</strong>"
Forum: Armchair-GM25 janv. 2022 à 20 h 22
Forum: Armchair-GM24 janv. 2022 à 8 h 35
Sujet: Trade for Carter Hart and a largely rebuilt defence
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Right now, that first would be a lottery pick. At the rate the Oilers are going, that's 50/50 if it changes. This is a trade made in the summer, when Bear is an RFA and they still have DeAngelo to re-sign. Pesce and DeAngelo are both better than Bear, so Bear won't get the chance to be a top 4 D man for years to come. Raanta is an injury riddled backup, you throw him with a 3RD, who's shown promise, but not consistency, for a 40-50 point defenseman you could move and a lottery first? There's no reason not to.</div></div>

I can think of a few reasons not to…

-A right side consisting of 2/3 of Barrie/DeAngelo in the playoffs is a recipe for disaster. They’d need to make another trade to being in a vet D

-If they trade Raanta, they have to make a trade to bring in a backup

So, is it worth it just for a lottery 1st, when they’re in win now mode…to me, no. It opens too many holes in the immediate roster while adding a player they have zero need for in Barrie.

It’ll be interesting to see what they do with Bear, but I highly doubt they move him in a trade like this.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. 2022 à 9 h 1
Sujet: fixing flaws
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabres_Insider</b></div><div>massive decline for Buffalo. Why would they consider this??</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datmonkey91</b></div><div>I was just editing to explain the trades if you wanna look at it. But to repeat, the Sabers aren't gonna look to further rebuild their team for much longer. Barrie helps out the RD as they fall thin there next year and will help develop the younger guys being a vetran. Giving what I'm sure is a lower end 2nd round pick shouldn't be much to ask for.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsin4</b></div><div>Do not think Buffalo is in a position to take on these two guys, does not make much sense for them
Getting Term with toffoli and chariot likely demanding a lot of attention going to need to give up more in that trade</div></div> IMO the NHL is transitioning from knock-em-down defensemen to what the NHL to the turn of the last century "rover" defenseman.
Back then team played with 6 skaters and a goalie, the sixth skater being a rover who would jump into the play while the other two defensemen would hold their position.
One might say this style of defenseman started with Bobby Orr.
Onto the trade. Jokiharju is the only RHD signed next year, while Laaksonen appears to be ready to jump to the NHL that still leaves an open spot.
That second is next year and could be around the 50th to 62nd pick.
In the past 20 years Buffalo has drafted poorly in the second round with Compher, McCabe, and Asplund being the best.
With a 15% chance of getting a decent NHL player versus snatching a RHD who scored more pts than any defenseman in the NHL last year who is signed for two years beyond this season, I take the sure thing.
IMO he would be a perfect fit in the Granato system of encouraging the defense to "rove" into the offensive zone.

Turris has already cleared waivers and does not have to ever don a Sabre uniform.
<strong>If it only cost a late second to get Barrie, I make the deal.</strong>

As to the other trades, I think you did a great job probably need a little more going to MTL.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 janv. 2022 à 14 h 5
Sujet: Oh what couldve been
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vr1995</b></div><div>would have been a waste of protection on larsson because he wanted out of edmonton regardless</div></div>

The Oilers offered him the same contract he got in Seattle (and I believe possibly a little more). He wanted out of the shadow of being traded 1 for 1 with Hall. He was a good player for us but clearly not being able to shake that (which is in no way his fault) had gotten to him over the years.

All said and done, this defense really isn't any better. Obviously not getting salary retained on Keith was just plain dumb but I would still argue he's more effective than Jones if you take salary out of the equation. I don't think Jones/Murray is a huge improvement on Keith/Koekkoek/Russell.

So far I would say the one signing that has worked out is Ceci. With Larsson effectively not actually being an option as he wanted out, Ceci has been decent. He's not an all star by any stretch but has been our most reliable RHD and his salary is reasonable (although term is still a little iffy).