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Créé par: datmonkey91
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 17 févr. 2022
Publié: 17 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Oilers can run either 11 forwards 7 defense or the traditional 12 and 6

Holloway should be called up sometime in March and if all goes well, maybe he can handle some top 6 ice time with Draisaitl
Transactions
1.
ANA
  1. Samorukov, Dmitri
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 3rd - turns into 2024 2nd if Lindholm re-signs with oilers
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EDM
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Barrie was bound to bring back value and if the Oilers shop him around, I can see teams taking the bait. Seattle can get their PP1 quarterback to replace Giordano and Barrie would be their best puck moving guy. Barrie would also add a little mobility to their back end as Dunn is really the only mobile guy back there. Barrie doesn't have to be traded to SEA but it could be any team that is interested.
SEA
  1. Barrie, Tyson
Détails additionnels:
I'm convinced Barrie played bad to get Tippett fired because he's somehiw improved under Woodcroft
3.
EDM
  1. Mayfield, Scott
Détails additionnels:
Assuming that the isles have Pulock and Dobson on the right side on the top two pairings, that leaves Mayfield on the third pairing which can easily be replaceable. Also, if the isles continue their dissapointing play next season, it's doubtful that Mayfield re-signs with the team too. I think the package going back will be helpful to the isles as they get good value for a guy they might potentially lose to free agency.
NYI
  1. Benson, Tyler
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. Holtby, Braden
Détails additionnels:
this trade would only happen if the oiler goalies aren't playing well. I'd rather first see the oilers look at how the Koskinen/Smith tandem pans out as they haven't been healthy at the same time for much of the season. Now that they're both at 100%, the oilers can find the right playing time for both guys and hopefully both play strong giving the oilers options going into the playoffs.
DAL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Koskinen
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17 févr. 2022 à 3 h 26
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Conditions of player signings are no longer aloud per the new CBA.
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17 févr. 2022 à 4 h 2
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That’s an insulting Lindholm trade
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17 févr. 2022 à 4 h 30
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Can't see Seattle trading a 2nd for an overpriced 30-year-old luxury item. They're just into building the first time, not one highly specialized piece away from contending.
17 févr. 2022 à 7 h 4
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Can't see Seattle trading a 2nd for an overpriced 30-year-old luxury item. They're just into building the first time, not one highly specialized piece away from contending.


It’s one thing to say Seattle isn’t in position to add someone like Barrie which is very fair take but the overpriced comment isn’t correct. Look at what right handed d get paid Hamilton Jones so on and Barrie makes half but fully capable of out producing them. Sure he has some flaws to his game which are overblown but his production easily covers his salary.
17 févr. 2022 à 7 h 29
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It’s one thing to say Seattle isn’t in position to add someone like Barrie which is very fair take but the overpriced comment isn’t correct. Look at what right handed d get paid Hamilton Jones so on and Barrie makes half but fully capable of out producing them. Sure he has some flaws to his game which are overblown but his production easily covers his salary.


Wow, so much to sort through here. Let me give it a shot.

- Barrie is overpriced (this is not a hot take at all), and bringing up two far superior and yet still overpriced examples doesn't help the argument.

- Barrie was capable of producing at a similar level (not outproducing them), but that time appears to be in the past now.

- Let's be real, his flaws are not overblown. Dude is a major defensive liability, and he no longer produces enough to obscure that well-known fact.

- The guy has 18 points in 41 games, and just nine in 644 even strength minutes. If it wasn't for coat-tail riding McD and Drai, those numbers would be even sadder. And for a 30-year-old guy with obvious defensive issues and a 2x4.5 remaining after this season, that is not what I consider covering his salary. If you think it is, well gosh... good luck with all that. Just be aware that there are currently 59 RDs with a better points per $ ratio (or almost enough for every team in the league to have two), and almost all of those are far superior defensively. There are 151 D-men with better pts/$ ratios, which is a little under five for every team (and again, most are much better defensively, to boot). In all, there are a grand total of 530 NHL players currently with a better pts/$ ratio, or enough for every team to have just over 16-and-a-half of them (and, mind you, teams dress 18 skaters per night).

I don't know what else to tell you, man.
17 févr. 2022 à 7 h 40
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Wow, so much to sort through here. Let me give it a shot.

- Barrie is overpriced (this is not a hot take at all), and bringing up two far superior and yet still overpriced examples doesn't help the argument.

- Barrie was capable of producing at a similar level (not outproducing them), but that time appears to be in the past now.

- Let's be real, his flaws are not overblown. Dude is a major defensive liability, and he no longer produces enough to obscure that well-known fact.

- The guy has 18 points in 41 games, and just nine in 644 even strength minutes. If it wasn't for coat-tail riding McD and Drai, those numbers would be even sadder. And for a 30-year-old guy with obvious defensive issues and a 2x4.5 remaining after this season, that is not what I consider covering his salary. If you think it is, well gosh... good luck with all that. Just be aware that there are currently 59 RDs with a better points per $ ratio (or almost enough for every team in the league to have two), and almost all of those are far superior defensively. There are 151 D-men with better pts/$ ratios, which is a little under five for every team (and again, most are much better defensively, to boot). In all, there are a grand total of 530 NHL players currently with a better pts/$ ratio, or enough for every team to have just over 16-and-a-half of them (and, mind you, teams dress 18 skaters per night).

I don't know what else to tell you, man.


He led all d in points just last season…. Don’t think he just suddenly dropped off a cliff his production this season is down a bit due to the team providing Bouchard more opportunity which cuts into his time which cuts into his ability to produce.
17 févr. 2022 à 7 h 58
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He led all d in points just last season…. Don’t think he just suddenly dropped off a cliff his production this season is down a bit due to the team providing Bouchard more opportunity which cuts into his time which cuts into his ability to produce.


Oh good heavens. Setting aside that time marches on, he demonstrably has dropped off a cliff (I JUST demonstrated it) and the fact that he's losing his place on a middling team to a kid ain't gonna help his value any.

But just for the record, Barrie is currently 427th in the league in points/60 at all strengths (right behind Nick Ritchie!), and he's 635th in pts/60 at evens.

I could go on, but you should be able to see the light here.
17 févr. 2022 à 9 h 36
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Why is it doubtful mayfield re-signs?
17 févr. 2022 à 10 h 26
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That’s an insulting Lindholm trade


It's honestly close to what I'd accept. If the Oilers replace Samorukov with a different, slightly better prospect (they shouldn't give up a defensive prospect in the first place), I would probably accept.
18 févr. 2022 à 0 h 54
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Quoting: AntreDiAnaheim
That’s an insulting Lindholm trade


Teams won't pay more for 30 games plus playoffs for a guy. It seems to be a fair trade and what probably Anaheim will get at most for lindholm at the deadline unretained. And since teams can't put conditions on resigning anymore, I'll make the condition to be if the oilers make the conference final the pick turns into a 2024 2nd.
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It's honestly close to what I'd accept. If the Oilers replace Samorukov with a different, slightly better prospect (they shouldn't give up a defensive prospect in the first place), I would probably accept.


Try adding Holloway and they might accept, Especially if you're looking at resigning him. Even though i don't know where Edmonton would come up with the money to afford him.
18 févr. 2022 à 1 h 0
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Try adding Holloway and they might accept, Especially if you're looking at resigning him. Even though i don't know where Edmonton would come up with the money to afford him.


I would stay far away from that trade if Holloway was involved. He'll for sure be a top 6 NHL player for majority of his career and I wouldn't be trading that away for a rental. Samorukov is a projected second pairing dman and has been developing nicely as he's went from the OHL, to the KHL, and now the AHL. He should be an NHL guy next year and as he develops further he should be able to reach his potential. And I also doubt the oilers re-sign lindholm if they traded for him. Really just a pure rental to me.
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18 févr. 2022 à 1 h 2
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Why is it doubtful mayfield re-signs?


If the isles continues to trend down and he plays bottom pairing minutes I think he'd rather seek a team that plays him more and is a contender. Also a good idea for the isles to trade him to strengthen their prospect pool while not losing too much on a strong right side.
18 févr. 2022 à 1 h 6
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Can't see Seattle trading a 2nd for an overpriced 30-year-old luxury item. They're just into building the first time, not one highly specialized piece away from contending.


Quoting: mokumboi
Wow, so much to sort through here. Let me give it a shot.

- Barrie is overpriced (this is not a hot take at all), and bringing up two far superior and yet still overpriced examples doesn't help the argument.

- Barrie was capable of producing at a similar level (not outproducing them), but that time appears to be in the past now.

- Let's be real, his flaws are not overblown. Dude is a major defensive liability, and he no longer produces enough to obscure that well-known fact.

- The guy has 18 points in 41 games, and just nine in 644 even strength minutes. If it wasn't for coat-tail riding McD and Drai, those numbers would be even sadder. And for a 30-year-old guy with obvious defensive issues and a 2x4.5 remaining after this season, that is not what I consider covering his salary. If you think it is, well gosh... good luck with all that. Just be aware that there are currently 59 RDs with a better points per $ ratio (or almost enough for every team in the league to have two), and almost all of those are far superior defensively. There are 151 D-men with better pts/$ ratios, which is a little under five for every team (and again, most are much better defensively, to boot). In all, there are a grand total of 530 NHL players currently with a better pts/$ ratio, or enough for every team to have just over 16-and-a-half of them (and, mind you, teams dress 18 skaters per night).

I don't know what else to tell you, man.


I thought that Barrie wouldn't be the right fit in Seattle which is why I made the trade not team specific but we've seen crazier things from GMs.

Also, if you look on nautralstattrick, you can see that Barrie's offensive analytics are pretty much on par with Klingberg's. And I'd imagine Klingberg (as a rental) fetching at least a 1st this year. But in all honesty, Barrie sucks and it would be a win for the oilers if they got rid of him while getting value back.
18 févr. 2022 à 7 h 46
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Try adding Holloway and they might accept, Especially if you're looking at resigning him. Even though i don't know where Edmonton would come up with the money to afford him.


No way the Oilers add Holloway.
 
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