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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 1 heure

Sujet: Trouble

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Both of those young players are mid. Rather get a 1st from another team</div></div>

Lol, sure. 20 y/o players with 220 games under their belt and a solid 2-way game are just so common. You go be happy with a 23 oa pick in 2026.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 2 heures

Sujet: Penguins off-season

Laine's best hockey has been played in Columbus up until he started dealing with whatever off-ice issues he has now. There is no reason to believe that he can't get back to where he was in 2021-22 and 22-23 with a clear head.

With how much love Boone has for Columbus, Pittsburgh is absolutely on his no-trade list if the Jackets would ever even begin to consider sending him to a division rival.

The package you're proposing doesn't even cover Boone's value to the Jackets let alone Laine 50% retained and taking back what equates to a pure cap dump to the Jackets in Reilly Smith.

There is no benefit for the Jackets here.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 2 heures

Sujet: Trouble

Jackets are not trading young players for a 33 y/o Brock Nelson on the last year of his contract. Silly.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 4 heures

Sujet: Buffalo Sabres 2024-25 Playoff Roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SportsfanBUF</b></div><div>Fixed and added a 3rd to go with the 2nd</div></div>

Love how he said add a player with middle six upside and a first and you add a third. With respect, get a clue. We want the equivalent of 3 firsts for Jenner. Or a really good prospect and late first. As he said. This offer doesn’t come close.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 4 heures

Sujet: Buffalo Sabres 2024-25 Playoff Roster

Even with the adjustments to the trade not enough quality for Jenner.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 5 heures

Sujet: Buffalo Sabres 2024-25 Playoff Roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>I agree this is not enough for Jenner, but tuch is ALOT better than Jenner. No comparison</div></div>

Tuch is slightly more valuable but Jenner can play C and is good at FOs. I wouldn’t say “no comparison”.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 5 heures

Sujet: Buffalo Sabres 2024-25 Playoff Roster

Not even close to getting Jenner. He's the team's captain, all-time games played leader, current 1C (even though he really shouldn't be), has paced for 30g each of the last 3 seasons, he has 2 years left on a contract that is far below market value, he expressly wants to remain in Columbus, and he has the backing of ownership and management. It would take a ridiculous package to get him out of Columbus despite trading him being in their best interest for bolstering their future group.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 8 heures

Sujet: If The Leafs Lose to Boston

Hmm. Useful bottom pair defenseman who serves an important leadership role on a young team plus reataining four million dollars for a totally useless bottom six forward who's rarely healthy? Easy pass for Columbus.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 13 heures

Sujet: Offs

Big no on Voronkov. Would have to be a solid NHLer coming back in the trade to even consider moving him.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures

Sujet: Marner Again

Hard pass on that trade. TOR can keep him. there is also no way he waives to come to cbus. more than likely he wont waive at all and will just walk after next season.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures

Sujet: Marner Again

I fail to see why Columbus would want either a rental or the opportunity to pay a winger 13+ million dollars.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures

Sujet: Mitch

Idk which is worse…giving up that entire package for Marner as a rental, or giving up that entire package so we get the privilege of paying him $13M until he’s 36.

EDIT: And knowing his production will be halved because he doesn't have Matthews or Tavares passing him the puck.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures

Sujet: Mitch

Marner finally got a point last night! Why are you so desperate to move him?

He says no, of course. So does Columbus, but it’s not like we matter here.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 23 heures

Sujet: Mitch

Columbus isn't trading Jiricek and a top 5 pick for another winger. If Marner was a natural center, maybe they'd consider moving the pick

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 14 h 11

Sujet: Offseason

Voronkov isnt available, especially for that package. I would be down for just a trade around Elvis for VV though.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 14 h 7

Sujet: Offseason

From CBJ - hell no on Voronkov. we have a plethora of smallish wingers and centers. He is one of the few on this team that is large 6'4 230lbs. that also plays center/wing, skates well, has good hands, defensively responsible and has a bite to his game. Ohh yea his hockey sense is very good not elite but close

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 14 h 34

Sujet: Offseason

I'd rather hold onto Laine and gamble on a rebound/ TDL overpay.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 13 h 53

Sujet: fafa

Boqvuist could be had for a mid round pick. Columbus doesn't have the roster space or cap space for Hronek and his next deal since they already committed to Severson and have a ton of their own RFA's to re-sign (and a disgruntled top prospect at that position who needs a roster spot next season). Hronek might be a better fit for the Ducks, who desperately need a top-4 RHD and have the cap space.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 16 h 50

Sujet: Adams a Jack Adams

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BuffaloSoldier55</b></div><div>The one Columbus fan in the thread said that's the type of package it would take. Also that it's foolish.
Maybe a Prospect, 3rd rd pick conditional 2nd if he plays benchmark number of games.

Kuzy went for just a 3rd out of the program, he was consistently healthier however.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>Idk what to tell ya dude
EVERY Sabres fan thinks it’s a bad idea

But maybe you’re right, & everyone else is wrong, Lol</div></div>

And that's why Laine is unlikely to move this summer. Columbus can afford to wait to see if he rebounds. There's absolutely no pressure to sell him for pennies on the dollar. So to convince the org to trade him would require an offer commesurate with the top-line winger he can be, otherwise they'll just wait. This offer is that, so Columbus would accept. But obviously Buffalo would never offer it, so that's moot. Sounds like OP is just looking to see what that would mean for Buffalo, and Sabres fans just want to be mad (and that I don't blame y'all for one bit).

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 13 h 53

Sujet: Adams a Jack Adams

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Viqsi</b></div><div>That's the sort of deal it'd take for the Jackets to give up Laine, and it thus also serves as an excellent illustration of why it would be incredibly foolish for another team to try to trade for him right now.</div></div>

Thank you for actually seeing that part of this exercise.
Someone is going to move for him at some point. The hypothetical of him returning to hockey, being 26 years old and an elite top 6 forward is still there.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 13 h 18

Sujet: Very Promising Team with New Coach and GM

I still think they'll be able to move Elvis without retaining, but they certainly won't get anything in return. He managed to be an average goalie behind a ****-show this season, so there's a serviceable goalie in there and other GMs know this. But this return is silly. Elvis unretained for future considerations is perfectly sufficient for me.

Columbus declines the second trade. No reason to move Laine for peanuts now.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 13 h 0

Sujet: Very Promising Team with New Coach and GM

Devils decline the first trade. Jackets decline the second

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 13 h 21

Sujet: Adams a Jack Adams

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>Ya, that's an easy no for the Sabres. He hasn't played 60 games in a season since 19/20 where he only played 68. He's also just not worth all that.</div></div>

2019-2020? You mean the season that only had 68 games? A whole lot of guys only played like 60 games that year. The argument against the Sabres making this deal is plenty strong without using misleading numbers.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 13 h 19

Sujet: Adams a Jack Adams

Laine is a .80ppg guy on a bad CBJ team, and has been a victim of bad hits, fluky injuries, and (oh yeah!) NHLPA assistance. Put him on BUF's offense, and he'd light **** up.

That being said, CBJ would love this, but I'd have a hell of a team convicning BUF this was the right move for them right now.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 13 h 8

Sujet: Young Talent That Hughes Could Target

Works for CBJ.<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>Hell, Bjorkstrand went for less and he's a much better player than Texier. The cap exists and the market dictates the price.</div></div>

He is! Difference is, that trade was made with CBJ under cap duress, and Texier is (being generous) going to make 1/4 as much as Bjorkstrand. CBJ *needed* to make a move and probably made the wrong one, since they were also betting that a younger Texier would have a higher ceiling.

This probably leans slight overpay for Tex, but I'd just be cautious about making a comparison to the Bjorky trade, given the cirumstances.

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