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Forum: Armchair-GM8 sept. 2022 à 9 h 4
Sujet: Bertuzzi Deadline Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Spaceman</b></div><div>This is comparable to Kevin Fiala...A 1st and a good prospect who was taken in the 2nd round. The kicker is Bertuzzi agrees to an extension with Minny that they can afford which Fiala wasn't going to do.

Greenway is literally in there for cap reasons. Berts a major upgrade from him on the Wing and opening up that 3mil for re-signing Bert. Take Greenway away and Bert basically becomes a rental for Minny. Doubt they'd pay a 1st and Khusnutdinov for a rental. If Detroit doesn't receive at least that, there's no point in trading Bert and really focus on re-signing him.</div></div>

Lol Greenway is not some throw away player dude.

You can convince yourself all you want that this deal is good for Minnesota but it's simply not. This is a haul for Detroit and it is extremely unrealistic. Tyler Bertuzzi is just not that valuable, even with an extension.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 mai 2022 à 12 h 55
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mai 2022 à 12 h 54
Sujet: Trying to be realistic on Fiala
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>iAce</b></div><div>I appreciate a constructive post here. As a Wild fan, lets touch on a few points. First, we ranked 3rd in prospect pipeline. Meaning a huge amount of B prospects doesn't do anything for us. Second, we are contending. Meaning we are looking for certain things back for players like Dumba/Fiala trades. Lastly, we draft very well thanks to Judd Brackett. Meaning we would want high draft picks. The draft proposals above are way better than most of the fan base. We have the same in the Wild community as well. Most of us are thankful for a guy like Fiala because this org has lacked scoring almost our entire existence.

We have a log jam at forwards so any forwards that are traded need to work on a top 6 line combo. Even with that the Wild have players to fill in that role so it's not really needed at them moment due to Rossi coming up next year and not having a ton of UFA/RFA's. We also have our top 3 defense in place with Brodin, Spurgeon Dumba and potentially Middleton being resigned after the year is over. So a defender would have to be a high end player to add benefit to our roster.

Trades like Foote, late first and a second rounder, does nothing really to intrigue the Wild. Foote won't make this roster unless its the 4th line and a late first has a very low probability of making a pro roster and a second round is the same. So trading Fiala for that proposal really does nothing for us.

Proposals I think the Wild are targeting:

Mercer+3rd for Fiala
Luke Hughes+3rd for Fiala
Boqvist+1st unprotected for Fiala

These trades at least provide a foundation. Boqvist might not crack the roster but if there are injuries we could call him up. A first round pick gets us a prospect that could help us in time. I'd be more interested in no picks and getting back a Dawson Mercer or Luke Hughes because they add a young player that will make this club next year. It also allows us to make changes else where which adds a benefit where we may not need anything else besides that player.

Example: A Mercer trade allows us to pencil him in on the Boldy line with Rossi and thus letting us move Freddy potentially. Or a Luke Hughes trade allows us to move Dumba for a winger we thing can fit into our top 6 role. So getting a pick isn't needed as much because we could move other players for picks most likely.

TLDR: The Boqvist plus the number 5 overall would be the only pick I would entertain because it sets us up with a prospect that we like in our system. I'd rather have a high end talent like Mercer or Hughes for Fiala because of their cap hit but I understand NJD might not want to move these pieces. I do think the Wild could keep Fiala with little to no effort but we would loose the depth needed to contend. I also think this trade will be very difficult as Fiala is probably the top 5 fan favorite of all time for us.</div></div>

Luke Hughes is the best prospect in hockey right now and you think you're getting him for Kevin freakin Fiala?! hahahaha

The trade that makes the most sense for Fiala in my opinion is Holtz + Zacha from NJ.