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Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2020 à 23 h 10
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2020 à 22 h 52
Sujet: How many 50 point winger Colorado had since 2013-14
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>I said look at JT Miller as an example. he was traded for a 1st and a 3rd. 2nd line Winger. You can find guys that dont cost you a 1st and a top prospect, which caused him to go back on his soap box.
Even look at incomplete samples this year in Burakovsky and Donskoi, both are averaging over a 50 point pace (should be in that 45-50 point pace when the smoke clears, They didnt cost those assets to get either. 2nd line wingers options are always available. And its funny how he is framing this now. Drouin was a 50 point player not he Habs but getting 3rd in Total Ice Time and 1st in PP time. Thats not a 50 point 2nd line winger. Its just his way to try to justify his soap box stance</div></div>

And both of them have been stone cold since rantanen and landeskog have come back. Both have been playing with mackinnon on the first line where they had there share off point but since they are back on that second line. Since landeskog took back is spot danskoi have 6 point in 17 games and burakowsky isn’t doing much better with 6 point in 17 game so when they are without mackinnon they are what they are average players
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2020 à 22 h 31
Sujet: How many 50 point winger Colorado had since 2013-14
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>I made up a whole story? You're the one who is making up a fake story.. Drouin is not a 50 point 2nd line winger....50 points while being 3rd in Total Ice time out for Forwards last season on Montreal, 1st in Power player time.

He was a 53 point player given top minutes in every way. That isnt a 2nd line Winger. Thats a 50 point 1st line Winger. Hes not getting the same producing in a reduced role

But keep on telling yourself that, you threw a hissy fit that I didnt think Drouin was worth the price you were fighting about and made up a whole roster, a whole fake story and spent hours looking up stats to try to frame a scenario to make you feel better</div></div>

From those 48 wingers drouin was averaging 16:56 ice time a night that would put him 41 out of 48 players not bad for a players always on the ice.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2020 à 22 h 26
Sujet: How many 50 point winger Colorado had since 2013-14
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I feel like specifying Colorado (a team that was utter trash until like 3 years ago and was last in the standings) really makes this post bias. Last year there were 52 wingers that had 50+ points and 61 that reached 47 (generally considered the 50 point range). 2 years ago there were 55 wingers that reached 50+ points and 70 wingers that got to at least 47pts. Idealy each competing team wants at least 3 wingers that can reach that threshold and every team wants at least 2. So if there are 31 teams in the league then that means teams should have at least 2 each and just under half of them have 3. This is of course assuming the league is much more balanced. And teams like Detroit this year aren't sitting 25 points out of the playoffs at the half way mark.

Its should also be noted that last year goalie pad sizes were decreased meaning scoring in general went up (especially early in the year), hence why players like Kucherov were able to get so many points</div></div>

I have taken the stats from the nhl official site so the center that play winger where listed as center since they have play some game at that position. Every statement made above are verifiable on nhl.com. So how can verified stats are bias? And just ask a question that you don’t even answer properly. Please read the post more carefully and your information are not good since you probably took a amateur site that compiles stats and they are not official.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2020 à 22 h 13
Sujet: How many 50 point winger Colorado had since 2013-14
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I was surprised there are so few 50 point wingers. Not just looking at points, it's value to the team.
If there are 31 first line wingers, the average second liner winger should get the 46th highest salary. The NHL stats should the 46th paid RW gets 4.6m and the 46 paid LW 3.5m.....So I guess that's the market about 4m for a second line winger. The 46th paid centre 5.5m

Moral of the story. Teach your children to be right handed.</div></div>
I would have to say that i was more then surprised when i found out about that. There more center that get 50 point then winger right or left include. I like the charts thing for salary. Would save a lot of bad contract. Thank for your thoughts
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2020 à 21 h 40
Sujet: How many 50 point winger Colorado had since 2013-14
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I would like to have your thought on that topics thank gang ?
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2020 à 20 h 11
Sujet: Do it already
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>I added to my post saying the comp for Drouin ins JT Miller...50 point guys, 2nd line wingers signed for 3 more years. He was a 1st and a 3rd. Thats the world you live In for value, dont add extra value to him bc you think he could be more (he hasn't shown he can be in his NHL career beyond 53 points) and there is no added value in him and Mack being old line mates

He is what he is, and that is similar to JT Miller...and he didnt fetch a 1st and a top prospect either. Brayden scheen is not a comparable hes a legit C and a cap dump was involved int he trade. Drouin is a winger, he is not a C. A 2nd line Winger who has flashes of offence ability but a complete train wreck defensively</div></div>

Ahahah added after reading my comment to justify how off you where in the first place. Jt miller is a 40-50 point players who reach 50 point only once. Drouin( 2 year younger have already done it twice and was on pace for breaking that mark again this year. Brayden schenn was traded at 25 and wasn’t trade because of cap issues. Jt miller was moved to make room for brayden point they got the max they could get for him in that sense. So again your are wrong like always. Drouin is 24 and have plenty of value. You can’t even do a proper analysis. Damn i feel sorry for you. Coming from a guys who cannot make the difference from a ufa and a players with term I feel like i am wasting energie since you are probably a little kids who still lets is mom choose is clothing in the morning. Its always the same thing when you comment post. Players hatred, every players that doesn’t play in colorado aren’t good and shouldn’t play in nhl. But a guy like timmins who haven’t done anything is better then more then half of defenseman playing in nhl. Every single team would trade for jonathan drouin if the price was a prospect and a 1 round pick. Even joe sakic would do that trade since he isnt a total troll
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2020 à 19 h 16
Sujet: Do it already
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Stop overestimating every Habs player and prospects, you go on a soap box every time.
Avs do not want Drouin, so hes dreaming that they would give up Timmins who they didn't want to include in a Hall deal. In what world do you think Sakic would include Timmins for a lesser player. If you cant comprehend that then there is no hope for you

Its not me who is over estimating prospects and picks, its just actual reality</div></div>

There nonreality in saying that timmins is just a good prospect and nothing more than that. The kid can still be a total bust and never have succes in Nhl that whybthey are prospect. Drouin is a established 50 point winger that a facts. Timmins is a real good ahl defenseman thats another fact. If he where that good he would be playing in nhl. And i will use simple word since it’s always seem complicated for you to understand simple thing. Hall was a unrestricted free agent at the end of the season. So Colorado would have gave up assets just for this year if Hall have decided to test the market. Drouin is sign for 4 more years at a nice average. The fact that Hall is a better player have nothing to do with the situation here because both players are in complete different situation. You can’t even make the difference between those 2. The trade proposal here was for drouin and 4 years at 5,5 millions. The blues traded 2 first round pick and lehtera for 3 years of brayden scheen. That a comparable. A comparable is a trade or a signature that happen before. That what team use the evaluate players or what they are looking for when they trade players.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2020 à 18 h 29
Sujet: Offer sheet
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>Oh so they'll just accept the deal, you mean like Point was going to right? Sure, keep spouting your uninformed opinions with no basis in fact or precedent in regards to Tampa and it's players. I'll stick with facts and what has actually happened with the franchise in the recent past. Again, you and so many others that continue to think Tampa can't make it work and will lose all these guys to offer sheets give all these supposed definites regarding contract value and what the Cap will be. When in fact Tampa has continued to make it work year after year and get their players to buy in and take the deals that make it work. Sure it's possible someone will buck that trend eventually, but where as us Tampa fans have put up with ppl like you over and over the past few years saying the same things re: this issue, real Tampa fans know how the team works. And when once again ppl like you complain about how unfair or how impossible it is Tampa gets it done, we just are like yeah, this is how the team works and the multiple examples and evidence of it is pretty clear. I've wasted enough time here, please keep shouting doom and gloom for Tampa and the cap, I'm sure one day you'll be correct.</div></div>

I am already right so i don’t care what you have said up there didn’t even read. They are doomed. Pis toi tes un fouille mierde