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Forum:
NHL Trades
8 janv. à 19 h 30
Sujet:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
Drysdale is already an established NHL player while Gauthier is not.
Gauthier hasn't even been signed to his ELC yet.
The 2nd round pick should be going the other way.
Philadelphia wins.
Forum:
NHL Trades
8 janv. à 19 h 29
Sujet:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
I get not wanting to play for Philly but why would you agree to play in Anaheim?
Forum:
NHL Trades
8 janv. à 19 h 28
Sujet:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
Just looking at the numbers suggests Philly won.
HOWEVER, and this is important. It took Drysdale TWO MONTHS to recover from an injury that was called day-to-day. This could be a bad sign.
Still, I'll call it a fair trade, pending injuries.
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NHL Trades
8 janv. à 19 h 27
Sujet:
(ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier
What the heck just happened.
Fair deal for now.
But wtf.
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NHL Signings
9 janv. à 5 h 24
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
Good deal for him, I think the cap hit and length is in line with his production and in relation to his contemporaries on his own team.
Bad deal for Toronto. They really have given the market value to their top forwards (no hometown discount) and waited too long to actually have any other viable options but to resign at market value. I think we've seen that the 4 headed/half the cap approach on FOUR FORWARDS has not worked. ANd because they've tied their ship to this venture, they ae constantly stuck in this wash, rinse, repeat cycle of bargain basement depth/trading futures for temporary fixes/UFAs/and poor evaulation or lack of importance on goaltending.
I guess I'd have more faith in the leafs if I had any belief that they actually recognize the faults/weaknesses and werent just interested in regular season offense. Say for example, Woll turns out to be the ONE, but similar to Murray, Samsonov, Mrazek, Jones we cant ignore that those players came to us for specific reasons (injuries, historical meltdowns, etc...) and didnt last.
Its also this path that has led to a near league bottom prospect pool, lack of picks over the next 3 yrs, (which will get worse at this TDL) and overly reliant still on annual bargain shopping or flawed UFAs.
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NHL Signings
9 janv. à 1 h 27
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danny12357</b></div><div>This is pretty bang on. This contract is far better than losing Nylander for nothing, and if you were trying to win this player over to your team, you sign it in a heartbeat.
The big L here for BT is that he allowed it to get to this point. There was a lot of risk of this happening, and it was obviously there. Expectations changed the second the NHL announced a cap increase for next season, and throw in Nylander's point streak and another year where he just plain looks better than the year prior (which has been Nylander's trajectory) and you basically have a GM that lit $1.5M in cap space on fire trying to save $500K. That's a terrible bet.
Reality is, when the Leafs ask was just under $9M and Nylander was at $10M, they should have realized there was more for Nylander to gain than the Leafs, and should have hammered away at it until a deal was done in the offseason. You could have just caved and gave him $10M and that would have been a win in hindsight.
BT's decision making has been mostly very poor with Toronto, but I think it's Shanahan that really should be feeling the heat. Forget about what people think of Dubas, but how does a president of hockey operations go from offering an extension to Dubas to firing him over a 48 hour period with no backup plan in place? What other organization would fire their GM in the middle of their competitive window? I mean I get the lack of playoff wins, but still, no other team would fire a GM of a team that has the record that the Leafs had over the last 5 seasons, especially going into an absolutely critical 24 month window where every star forward will need a new contract.
If this Leafs core ever wins, it's now going to be in spite of management, not assisted by it.</div></div>
This post is the most balanced and fair in all things that got pointed out.
That last point by you may sting the most because the fanbase deserves better.
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NHL Signings
8 janv. à 19 h 18
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PurpleHippo</b></div><div>What's your opinion on the hard cap?</div></div>
The NHL salary cap and contract structures a massive hindrance on the sport; the inflexibility of it only rewards teams for undervaluing their players, it restrains teams from being competitive, the contract value of a player absolutely dominates any discussion around said player over everything else and it's grossly in the favour of owners.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Permit performance bonuses for all contracts and allow their cap hit to be spread over same term as contract. It means some carry-over would apply for eight years…and sometimes would continue for players no longer on roster. Guys would get paid more for performing well, teams would avoid ginormous carry-over in single year, the bigger contracts would go for lower AAV and dead weight would be easier to move (since bad players wouldn’t be hitting bonus thresholds).
That’s my fix.</div></div>
The NHL needs to look at the NBA for ways to make the salary cap more viable. Bird rights, soft cap with luxury tax, etc. Performance bonuses being applicable on standard contracts too would be a viable addition.
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NHL Signings
8 janv. à 19 h 8
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
I'm going to have a tough time adjusting to double digit salaries if everyone is going to get them.
The question I ask is whether this is a player that gets it done regardless of the team around him. I'm not sure that applies to Nylander.
I don't mean to discredit him, but there are bigger threats in Toronto. If there are no Matthews and Marner, does Nylander still produce at that rate? I'm not convinced.
$9M is my limit for that next tier of players which I feel Nylander fits into. Still great, just not on the same level.
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NHL Signings
8 janv. à 18 h 28
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
Love this deal as it means the Leafs arent serious about winning the Cup. Another expensive top forward hasnt worked so far, so keep on doing it again! perfect sense. Dont worry about a weak defense and a terrible goal tending situation...that just fixes itself, its science.
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NHL Signings
8 janv. à 16 h 49
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>He's on pace for almost exactly 120 points. He would have gotten $12 million on the free market, maybe more.</div></div>
Yah and his previous career high is 87. Making him the highest payed winger in the league would have been beyond idiotic
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NHL Signings
8 janv. à 14 h 29
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>Not calling Nylander a scrub but this is about 2.5M too much</div></div>
I would have been fine with 10 mil especially at the pace he’s being going this year. 11.5 is an overpayment. There’s no way around it
Forum:
NHL Signings
8 janv. à 13 h 37
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
I think Nylander deserved the Gaudreau contract. No more, no less.
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NHL Signings
8 janv. à 13 h 34
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MadLin27</b></div><div>You lose all credibility when you say Willy is an 8-9 million dollar player.
Just a ridiculous thing to say.
I'll listen to someone saying its 250k-1mill overpay, but 2.5-3.5 overpay??? Ridiculous.</div></div>
He is though...
Has Nylander hit 50 goals?
Has Nylander hit 100 points?
Is Nylander serviceable defensively?
Has Nylander carried a team the way David Pastrnak has?
Is Nylander the 5th best player in the NHL?
Why are all these answers no?
Forum:
NHL Signings
8 janv. à 12 h 5
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
Brutal deal in my opinion. Way too expensive for a 1 way forward. Sure, it might make sense on another team, but for the Leafs who already have 3 other 10m+ forwards (2 of them being elite scorers) this deal is a bad one. Poor cap management even with the "cap is rising" argument in play. Yeah Tavares and Marner will be getting new deals in 2 years. Marner will make more than Nylander.
Just seems like to me the money could be better spent elsewhere if this team was actually trying to win a Stanley Cup.
Forum:
NHL Signings
8 janv. à 11 h 58
Sujet:
Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)
First of all, Nylander is worth 11 mil. I've been saying this for a long time now. If you don't think so - you're simply wrong
Second, he signed at a similar cap% as comparable wingers at the time like Benn, Stone, and Perry. Don't let the raw number fool you this isnt out of the blue.
Third and most importantly, Trev completely ****ed this negotiation up. If they were scared Nylander might walk - the time to "cave in" was in the summer. As it stands Nylander is at peak value and there is no reason to cave now 30 some odd games after refusing to go above 9mil. They should have waited out the year and let Reinhart get a comparable deal or let Willie cool off. Even if he didn't they could always just pay him this in June no problem. No one in the league can match 92 million dollars!
There was no risk!
What a horrible GM Trev has turned out to be. Worst fears confirmed about him
Fourth, I am very exited to have Willie be a life long leaf. Amazing player who has the perfect mentality for the market. Ideal Leaf and for that reason its still a good deal even with Trev being a panicky idiot.
I expect CF to vote it down. They also voted down both Matthews deals so that should tell you how little you should value that
Of course there are the usual worries about deals like this aging but I don't see any reason to suggest the risk is any more than any other comparable star so whatever. Would have liked us to get this down to 5 or 6 years given the aav, but I'll live with it.
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I figure he will drop down to somewhere around a point per game to a 100 point pace for the next few years, and that's fine for what he will cost
Forum:
NHL Trades
27 déc. 2023 à 8 h 42
Sujet:
(WPG/LAK) - Dubois for Iafallo, Kupari, Vilardi, 2024 2nd (MTL)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>I'd rather have Kupari at $1 million than PLD at $8.5 million.</div></div>
This might have been a little tongue-in-cheek, but it raises a good point. When you trade for a player on an expiring contract and then sign him to a UFA-like contract (in this case bigger than UFA, because it’s 8 years), you’re really paying for him twice, once with the assets you give up in the trade and again with the cap space you give up to sign him.
I often wonder if the opposite strategy would be better: Trade your pending free agents for futures and then use the cap space it frees up to replace them with UFAs. You still end up with the big contract, but you have other assets coming in instead of going out. It’s risky because it depends on UFAs being available for the holes you need to fill and them wanting to play for you, but if you can pull it off, you could build for the future without sacrificing the present.
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NHL Trades
23 déc. 2023 à 10 h 9
Sujet:
(WPG/LAK) - Dubois for Iafallo, Kupari, Vilardi, 2024 2nd (MTL)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>Cam Talbot is having his best season since his rookie year. If he slips to his career average, or is injured, then LA is in trouble.
But back to PLD, his point-per-game average is close to the lowest in his career and his on-ice goal differential is 7.5 below expected. According to The Athletic, his market value is $4.0 million, less than half of what he's being paid.</div></div>
It has been less than ten days since I wrote this and PLD's on-ice goal differential has fallen to 9.8 below expected.
He's on an 82-game pace for 14 goal, 20 assists, and an on-ice goal differential 27.7 below expected.
And he's getting paid $8.5 million this season and the next seven.
I'd rather have Kupari at $1 million than PLD at $8.5 million.
Forum:
NHL Signings
28 déc. 2023 à 21 h 45
Sujet:
Washington Capitals signed Ethan Bear (2 Years / $2,062,500 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RawDeal</b></div><div>Not sure he's worth that. Fourth team he'll play with and he's only 26. Don't know all of the in and outs of it so, whatever. It's not too bad I guess...</div></div>
I wouldn’t necessarily hold the 4 teams against him. Edmonton traded him for Warren Foegele, which I figured was just a good old-fashioned hockey trade for them — they needed a forward at the time and could afford to give up a defenseman to get one. I liked him in Carolina but he lost his starting spot when he got covid, and then he fell victim to their depth so they did him a favor and sent him to Vancouver so he could play in the NHL. I think he was fine in Vancouver but they didn’t want to make him a qualifying offer because of his surgery and their cap concerns, so that made him a UFA, free to shop around and he landed in Washington. He may not be top pair material but he’s good enough to be an NHL starter on most teams.
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NHL Signings
28 déc. 2023 à 17 h 12
Sujet:
Washington Capitals signed Ethan Bear (2 Years / $2,062,500 AAV)
I accidently clicked yes, but I'm not ssure if this will realloy be a good contract, mostly based on the fact that he hasn't played this year at all, and he's really not that good of a player. I like him though, he's actually from onbly a couple hours away from where I live in SK.
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NHL Trades
1 nov. 2022 à 8 h 44
Sujet:
(EDM/CAR) - Bear for Foegele
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilersguy</b></div><div>yeah Oilers win this trade, Bear didn't even last a full year in CAR before they shipped him off for just a 5th</div></div>
Yes, Edmonton won the trade, but I don’t think Bear was bad in Carolina. I thought he looked ok until he got covid, then other guys stepped up in his absence and he had difficulty getting back into the lineup. He was more a victim of their depth than poor play.
I liked Foegele in Carolina but for some reason Carolina doesn’t like to sign their own RFAs unless they see them as an essential part of their core. It was out of character for them to sign Bear when his contract expired this summer, which in retrospect they probably shouldn’t have done.
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NHL Signings
15 déc. 2023 à 19 h 17
Sujet:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Ethan Gauthier (3 Years / $950,000 AAV)
It's an ELC, the player is doing well in the Q, and Tampa has several contract slots left. There's ZERO reason to vote no.
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NHL Trades
23 févr. 2018 à 15 h 16
Sujet:
(OTT / PIT / VGK) - 3-Way Derick Brassard Trade
Were waiting on the retained amount before adding the trade to the site. Hopefully will be released soon!
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NHL Trades
15 nov. 2022 à 21 h 7
Sujet:
(ARI / CHI) - Schmaltz for Perlini, Strome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hawksfan881965</b></div><div>Perlini, toews, kane
Saad, Strome, debrincat
Potential is there for a well rounded top 6. Not this year but down the road... all about the word potential</div></div>
That aged well
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NHL Signings
14 déc. 2023 à 14 h 13
Sujet:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Ethan Gauthier (3 Years / $950,000 AAV)
He's been good so far this year
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NHL Signings
21 févr. 2023 à 18 h 22
Sujet:
Calgary Flames signed Jonathan Huberdeau (8 Years / $10,500,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>10.5 mil in cap space to sign more UFAs to bad contracts lol? You win some and you lose some with contracts like this. At the time it looked like a good deal. Don’t forget Huberdeau was coming off of a 115 point season. There was know way of know his problem was going to cut pretty much in half.
Don’t even know how I feel about Dubas anymore. If the leafs win even one round he absolutely should be extended. But if they don’t I feel like they have to let him go. It’s hard to justify this many playoff loses in a row.</div></div>
Maybe it's me but I don't think a player should be signed to an eight year extension when the new contract starts at the age of 30 (Huberneau). Yep he had a career but try projecting what he coming become. Same with Kadri, career year last season, but he has slipped this year. His seven year contract started when he was 32 years of age. I don't like this for the Flames at all.
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