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Forum: Armchair-GM11 mars 2021 à 18 h 25
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mars 2021 à 18 h 35
Sujet: NOT TRADING A FIRST WITH NEAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Right now, today, Edmonton's 1st round pick is #16 overall. No idea why you think it'll be in the 24-32 range. And you're just thinking for the short-term anyhow - next 5 years - whereas Holland is thinking long-term. BTW, Yamamoto (22nd overall in 2017) certainly made an impact last year and is a big part of this team at a very cheap rate going forward. You can't replace him in free agency for anywhere near what he makes, and that's the beauty of drafting and developing talent in this league.

Think about it this way: how many $1.9M players are you going to sign as UFA's are worth a 1st round pick in trade? Because that's what you're advocating here. Namestikov, Fast, Pitlick, Braun, Borowiecki, Reaves, Grimaldi, Francouz, Jordie Benn, Bellemare, Kinkaid and Polak are all players that have signed in the $1.75-2M range in the past 2 years. None of these guys is worth a first, yet that's the quality of player that $1.9M buys you on the open market.</div></div>

The team that receives the 16th overall pick this season missed the playoffs. We are currently in a playoff spot so we couldn't receive that pick as of now. I'm assuming we win a playoff series because we are relatively favoured to do so. That would result in a 24-32nd overall pick. If we finish with a lottery pick I wouldn't do the trade, I'd reassess once the playoffs are over

I think many people are underestimating the damage of cap penalties. It makes things very tricky unless you have multiple huge bargain contracts. We'll already have $2.25mill in cap penalties till 2023, with Neal bought out that's $4.2mill. The highest cap penalty any team I would consider a contender has is under $2mill, we are already fighting an uphill battle as is. Contenders like Colorado and Tampa have no cap penalties. Vegas has 500k in penalties.

The benefit from the extra money doesn't come from signing an extra 3rd/4th liner, it's upgrading on existing players and having TDL flexibility. Hypothetically, say we currently had a 1.9mill buyout penalty get lifted and had the extra money to make an upgrade. What if we upgraded on Archibald at $1.5mill for a guy making $3.4mill? Examples: Kerfoot, Kapenen, Dzingel. That's a big upgrade. Or upgrade on Koski ($4.5mill) with the 1.9mill for a real starter making 6.4mill. Examples: Fleury, Gibson, Markstrom, Hellebyuck. These upgrades are hypothetical, but just show what kind of an upgrade we could make in theory.

The salary cap should rise by 2023 or 2024. That's just as our Sekera buyout and Lucic retention end, leaving us with no more penalties. Imo that would be the perfect storm for a cup run, we gain an extra $2.25mill as our penalties end, and the salary cap increases. Neal's 1.916mill penalty would be there till 2025. Not to mention, if we make moves at future deadlines we'll be needing to throw in extra picks or prospects for salary retention to compensate for Neal's buyout penalty anyways, just get it over with now.

edit: i got a bit carried away but i feel Neal's contract or buyout being on our books makes a stanley cup even more unlikely, we need to do what it takes to avoid that
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mars 2021 à 17 h 13
Sujet: NOT TRADING A FIRST WITH NEAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>In what way? Nygard is stuck on the taxi squad, Neal gets regular playing time. Neal's the better player according to Dave Tippett. So I can't agree that it's worthwhile to trading a 1st to get rid of Neal. That cap space simply buys you a bottom-6 forward or two - that's certainly not worth a 1st.

I don't like the dead cap any more than anyone else, so personally I wouldn't buy him out at all. But a buyout is certainly preferable to trading a 1st with him.</div></div>

Nygard has speed and forechecks hard. I'm not an advanced stats guy but his are much better. Neal was a -20 last season, he's a liability but Tippett likes Neal on the PP so I understand why he's in over Nygard. I'd also sooner keep him till his deal ends rather than buying him out. Keeping Neal is quite costly too considering he's bound to decline further in the next 2 seasons

Our first round pick is likely in the 24-32 range. The chances that prospect makes an impact in the NHL that improves our team is low. Don't get me wrong, draft picks are obviously important but saving the ~$2mill does a lot more for our team in the next 5 years than that prospect most likely could. For example, only 1 prospect from that range in the 2018 draft has made any impact on their team. Odds are high we look back on that 1st round pick and think "hey, I wish we dumped Neal with that draft pick and signed a starting goalie or a first line LW with that $5.75mill"
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mars 2021 à 12 h 33
Sujet: NOT TRADING A FIRST WITH NEAL
Your plan is very reasonable and realistically what will happen, maybe we even wait till his last year to buyout.

Personally I'd like to see him moved somehow, even if it's with a 1st rounder. If we buy him out we'll have 4.3mill in total cap penalties till 2023. Thats a killer in the flat cap era. That 1.9mill in cap penalties from Neal might not seem like much but it could be the difference between a good team and an amazing team. Neal's 1.9mill penalty till <strong>2025</strong> is brutal imo, and likely costs us valuable assets down the line (trading for players with salary retention, unloading other contracts to avoid further penalties). We want to win a cup soon, and that almost 2mill anchor will make it even more challenging, just as we finally overcome our previous cap penalties. A guy like Nygard being paid under 1mill does more to help the team currently
Forum: Armchair-GM9 mars 2021 à 16 h 49
Sujet: Is this any closer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smitty426</b></div><div>Which part are you guys not getting?
We have one decent defender, who happens to play the right side (we have nothing up and coming there) he's 26 on a great contract.
He has finally shown up as the guy we need. The only way we move THAT is for over payment. I watch your posters do the same thing, so get there like you do with them! He's not Victor Heddman, but he's as close to it as we have, so we are not giving him away.
We good?</div></div>

"We good?" ?? I didn't realize we weren't good. Every time Severson is brought up in a trade discussion it's just funny watching every NJD fan on this site race to the comments. One guy said we'd need to give Holloway, Bouchard and Yamamoto. Pretty funny if you ask me
Forum: Armchair-GM9 mars 2021 à 12 h 40