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Forum: Armchair-GM19 mars à 10 h 47

Sujet: Trade down from 3 OA

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs_22_14_20</b></div><div>MTL would definitely select Cayden Lindstrom and yes, I would trade 6th + WPG Jets 1st to move up to 3rd OA
OTT 3rd round pick should be going to MTL tho</div></div>

Lindstrom over Demidov is another Reinbacher over Michkov. They cannot be that stupid again

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 15 h 8

Sujet: Positive offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>This is the only year in Matheson's career that he's been near 50 points, so it isn't a regular occurrence for him. He also not going to get PP1 and top pairing time in Winnipeg like he does in Montreal, so he'll most likely revert to the ~25 to 30 point, one way player he's always been.

It's just not worth moving a 1st for a player like that. If the Jets spend that pick, it needs to be for something that actually fills a need like a stay at home RHD as opposed to more unneeded depth on the left side.</div></div>

Hes been a 50 point player for 2 years now and would actually get 1st pp time. Jets dont have that great of a forward group. Ehlers, Connor, Scheifeile, Morrissey, Matheson. Jets only have a 19% pp. Its average and not much better than the Habs, with much better forwards. Matheson easily slots in. Also the Jets do not need a RHD. Pionk and Demelo are fine RHD. Roy is in FA. Jets need goals and offense. Matheson gives them that

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 14 h 50

Sujet: Positive offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>But he's not great defensively and is paid too much to play on the 2nd pair behind Morrissey.

If he was an RHD and good defensively he would fill a need. As it is, he doesn't add anything the Jets need.</div></div>

4.875m is now too much for a 2nd pair LHD that gets 50 points? If the Jets need a RHD DFD, resign Demelo, instead of resigning Dillon

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 14 h 48

Sujet: Offer sheet Lundell

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DFinn91</b></div><div>1 less year and $5M less for the next 2 years.</div></div>

Habs dont need the cap though. Theyll have like 30m next year

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 14 h 31

Sujet: Offer sheet Lundell

a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for 1 less year of cap dumps

Id probably keep them for that price. Habs wouldnt give up a 1st to dump them

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 14 h 26

Sujet: Positive offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Zero chance Winnipeg pays that much for a player that does nothing for them.</div></div>

Hed become your 2nd best d man instantly, And Iafallo is a cap dump. 23 points in 67 games at 4m is bad

Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars à 3 h 56

Sujet: Huge trade with the Flames

Taking on those contracts even retained, is still more negative value than 3 years of Anderson and Gallagher

Forum: Armchair-GM16 mars à 2 h 26

Sujet: Adding to the roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OwenMd05</b></div><div>Makes you curious why you want such a awful propect in Holloway then</div></div>

I said hes worth a 2nd rounder. About the price it would to dump Ceci

Forum: Armchair-GM16 mars à 0 h 19

Sujet: Adding to the roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OwenMd05</b></div><div>Ceci isn’t but Holloway worth more than a first</div></div>

Hes gonna be 23, with 13 points in 83 games in the nhl

Dude is worth like a 2nd for the fact he was a former 1st rounder

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 23 h 1

Sujet: Bare minimum

Theres 4 options imo

Kyrou
Keller
Necas
Trading for the Pens pick and taking Eiserman

I think if you were to add the 2025 1st to the list with say Mesar, you can trade up to the Pens pick (which gives the Habs 2 top 10 picks) and a trade for one of the players

Something like

Barron, Mesar, 2024 1st WPG for Pens 2024 1st

2025 1st MTL, 2025 1st CGY, Harris/Xhekaj for Kyrou/Keller

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 13 h 14

Sujet: Habs offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bwhsocal</b></div><div>the 2 AZ are easy beyond easy passes, AZ is trading keller for meh prospects and couple 1st in 2 years. and price = 2years for 2x 7th not worth it.</div></div>

If you think a player is worth more than 2 1sts, a top 4 d and 2 bottom 6 prospect then its hopeless for you

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 12 h 51

Sujet: Pens offseason attempt

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CowanDeBrabarian</b></div><div>I think CGY take that deal and change their phone #. You'd have to send some money back for it ever to work for the Pens, though.</div></div>

The money works. They still have 2m in cap space.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 12 h 50

Sujet: Pens offseason attempt

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ste_Catherine_Street</b></div><div>Habs pass. I don't think you even know who Barron and Mesar are. Mesar was a 1st rd pick...</div></div>

9th overall is Eiserman. Mesar is a 3rd line guy at best.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 12 h 48

Sujet: Adding to the roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Ceci plays harder minutes than Ekholm by far. His QoC is nearly as high, zone starts v Elites far harder, and he doesn't get to play with McDavid nearly as much as Ekholm.

He's not a world beater, but he is a legit top-4 NHL defenseman. Edmonton isn't making trade without a top-10 pick coming back.</div></div>

Just because you play better minutes does make you good. Hes 9th percentile 5v5 defense. Hes awful. He either needs to play less (and paying a 3rd pair guy 3.5m is funny) or get rid of him

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 12 h 47

Sujet: Adding to the roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SupremeBone</b></div><div>It's almost as if you didn't even pay attention to your own proposal.</div></div>

Yes i did, Ceci is a cap dump. Holloway is worth like a 2nd rounder these days, maybe even less. It would cost him to take Ceci back

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 1 h 3

Sujet: Habs offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>By putting price on LTIR after the season's start, MTL increased their cap ceiling to around $93M. It's not magic, it's in the rules. Learn them.

You came so close to recognizing the positive value of Weber's contract, but then prefered to talk down on Dadonov, a 0.5 ppg player ...

Would be more fun arguing with you if you got your basic facts right to start with...</div></div>

LTIR is a relief pool. Not a charity pool. The 20 rostered players can only cost 83.5m in cap, not the 93m you think it is. Its common sense. But i see you a lot around here, and you are never right so im not surprised

LTIR contracts are only worth it for teams who want guys with a higher cap hit then actual salaried owed. Thats why they are usually dealt with 1-2 years left as their contracts were front loaded

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 0 h 50

Sujet: Adding to the roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OwenMd05</b></div><div>Add your first round pick and the oilers might consider</div></div>

Ceci worth a 1st? AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 22 h 16

Sujet: Habs offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Why on earth would MTL give Price's insured contract away?

While all the genious GM's are using LTIR money to make their team contenders on $100M payrolls, you would just get rid of 2x$10.5M for free?

Not only could MTL use it by 2025-2026, but even if they would want to tade it they would get value for it.</div></div>

Teams dont magically gain 10.5m in cap space with his contract. Thats not how LTIR works. Its a negative asset for most teams. Arizona will need to be over the cap floor with the Keller trade and other offseason losses. This gives them a higher cap hit than salary owed. Weber only got Dadonov back (who was being paid like 4m and was bad)

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 21 h 37

Sujet: Bigger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>He played 2 full seasons with Weber on the first pairing and had very good stats. We all know what happened. This is why I don’t fully based my opinion on advanced stats. Sometimes, they are thrash</div></div>

He never averaged more than 18 minutes of TOI for a season. Had 1 year over 16 minutes. Thats a 3rd pair guy

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 21 h 20

Sujet: Bigger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Mete was playing first pairing minutes and had pretty good stats. 64th percentile offense and 79th percentile defense.</div></div>

Maybe he had a few games on the top pair but the majority of his minutes were 3rd pair

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 21 h 14

Sujet: Habs offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rew77</b></div><div>As a Pens fan I would definitely accept that trade. But I think you overpaid for just a 1st even if it is 9th overall.</div></div>

I mean i wouldnt mind replacing a 2nd with a 3rd

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 20 h 50

Sujet: Habs Win Lottery and Send 1OA for the Kid

Yes lets send the 1st overall pick for 2 36 year olds

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 20 h 6

Sujet: Adding to the roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>3 teams. And the Oilers are pretty good defensively under Knoblauch. Since he took over Nov 12 they have allowed the 4th fewest goals at 5v5, due to the fact that they've allowed the 5th fewest shots and the 5th fewest high danger chances.

They also have the best record in the NHL in that timeframe.

Clearly you haven't been paying attention.

:tearsofjoy</div></div>

Ceci isnt the reason why. 9th percentile 5v5 defence. Maybe it has to do with Ekholm not struggling and Skinner not being Jack Campbell

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 20 h 5

Sujet: Adding to the roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AEcho</b></div><div>NSH declines. NSH already has a wealth of LD's both in the NHL and waiting in the AHL, and NSH would rather get younger than older. They have plenty of veteran leadership and don't need to add another, especially at the cost of a 1st round pick, even though it isn't theirs.</div></div>

Ah yes 34 year old McDonagh and 33 year old Josi. They wont fall off a cliff anytime soon.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 20 h 3

Sujet: Adding to the roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mm1010</b></div><div>just cuz you try and upgrade on a player doesnt mean that player is bad or a cap dump just means there are players that are also better than him.
Ceci would be top 4 on like 27-28 of the 32 teams.

as for the oilers defensive game you clearly havent watched this season after the coaching change..</div></div>

Ceci is in the 9th percentile in 5v5 defense. Thats well below replacement level. Hes not even a goods PKer. Ceci stinks. And his paid about 3 million too much. Hes a cap dump

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