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Forum: Armchair-GM13 nov. 2020 à 12 h 48
Sujet: The State of the Franchise
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I think this is the wrong way to look at this.
The penguins have a better top 6 than the Caps. Crosby, Malkin, Zucker, Jake is a really big 4. Rust and Kap can hold their own. Caps don't have that kind of firepower in their top 4.
As for the bottom 6, Hags is washed. Panik is causing them to panic because he didn't show up last year and for every McMichael we have a Poulin. The question is which one plays. Eller was their only real decent bottom 6 player last year. And Sprong isn't going anywhere, he's on his 3rd team in 2 years. He's about washed himself out the league.

Penguins have a decent shut down line, but they aren't going to net goals. Then they have a 3rd line that is just trash. McCann and no one if Poulin doesn't play.
So I don't see where you think their bottom 6 is any better than the penguins. Or maybe you forgot hags inability to score and that he's lost his legs.
Both of these teams need help on the bottom 6. They both have some in youth if they decide to play it. I would argue the penguins have more help in their youth if they play O'Connor and Maniscalco. Who are older players out the NCAA and who are both regarded as solid players at that level.
The thing holding the penguins back is the coaching and GM. They won cups trusting the youth. They need to do the same again if they want to win. They just need to find a 3C to go along with it.
As a bottom 6 of McCann 3C Poulin
OConnor Blueger Tanev looks really good and better when ZAR can come back and play.
The bottom pairing of
Matheson and Maniscalco looks better than Matheson and Ceci.

but you can't fix teams unwilling to take a risk of playing the youth. Even though it won them 2 cups.</div></div>

That’s what I thought was gonna happen. When they signed maniscalco it thought that he would get a chance
Forum: Armchair-GM13 nov. 2020 à 12 h 43
Sujet: The State of the Franchise
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PENSFAN18</b></div><div>Agree. I look at the Pens and Caps as the same. They are a year apart. I think the Cals are better than the Penguins on paper. I think Jarry is better than Samsonov but that’s IMO. We both have the same Anchors on D. Jensen is bad. I love Schultz but he’s turned into a liability. Matheson and Ceci aren’t much better. But the forward group is different. The top 6 is the same but the bottom isn’t. They got Hags, Eller, Panik, McMichael. Don’t count on Sprong and then we got McCann and Tanev. That’s it.</div></div>

I think this is the wrong way to look at this.
The penguins have a better top 6 than the Caps. Crosby, Malkin, Zucker, Jake is a really big 4. Rust and Kap can hold their own. Caps don't have that kind of firepower in their top 4.
As for the bottom 6, Hags is washed. Panik is causing them to panic because he didn't show up last year and for every McMichael we have a Poulin. The question is which one plays. Eller was their only real decent bottom 6 player last year. And Sprong isn't going anywhere, he's on his 3rd team in 2 years. He's about washed himself out the league.

Penguins have a decent shut down line, but they aren't going to net goals. Then they have a 3rd line that is just trash. McCann and no one if Poulin doesn't play.
So I don't see where you think their bottom 6 is any better than the penguins. Or maybe you forgot hags inability to score and that he's lost his legs.
Both of these teams need help on the bottom 6. They both have some in youth if they decide to play it. I would argue the penguins have more help in their youth if they play O'Connor and Maniscalco. Who are older players out the NCAA and who are both regarded as solid players at that level.
The thing holding the penguins back is the coaching and GM. They won cups trusting the youth. They need to do the same again if they want to win. They just need to find a 3C to go along with it.
As a bottom 6 of McCann 3C Poulin
OConnor Blueger Tanev looks really good and better when ZAR can come back and play.
The bottom pairing of
Matheson and Maniscalco looks better than Matheson and Ceci.

but you can't fix teams unwilling to take a risk of playing the youth. Even though it won them 2 cups.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 nov. 2020 à 13 h 34
Sujet: Signing Haula And Granlund
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyTownUSA69</b></div><div>I just saw an article today saying we could sign Craig Anderson to be back-up and to a cheap 750k-1M one-year deal.

We traded Murray at the worst time possible. Not only a flat cap year. But we had no leverage. Everyone knew we couldn’t hold onto Murray at 6.5M a year and sign Jarry with the flat cap and if we did, one would be selected in the expansion draft anyways. Plus all the goalies this year on the free agent market. It was the worst time possible
We could hav traded him. And after a average year too!!

I also said from the beginning that we were gonna to get a 2nd round pick and prospect. But I thought we were gonna get a “B”, B+” prospect and not a “C”, “C-“ prospect like Gruden. Gruden is like Joey Anderson. But not as far along, and younger. He’s a bottom 6 forward, energy guy, tough, fights for pucks in the corners and has alittle bit of a scoring touch. I think if we would’ve gotten S.Pinto or J.Davidsson, that would have been good value for a 26 years old All-Star goalie that has won 2 SC’s, making 6.5M a year and coming off an average year. Or I would have wanted D.Batheson or A.Formenton(who are probably A- prospects) and the 2nd round pick. But I knew we weren’t gonna get a 1st round pick b/c of the situation and we had no leverage. Like I said, a 2nd round pick and a “B”, “B+” prospect would have been good value.</div></div>

Yes I agree. I definitely Murray had enough value to fetch an A- prospect and 2nd Round pick given his resume. Heck even if they got Pinto, I would’ve been very happy. The organization is quite thin on good center prospects.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs12 nov. 2020 à 22 h 6
Sujet: putting the silly 34 vs mackinnon stuff to bed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyTownUSA69</b></div><div>Do one with their last 3 years!! You r conveniently doing 4 to get that one MacKinmon year in there.</div></div>

no i just did last 4 because that includes all of matthew's seasons

last 3 years is:
matthews 200gp: 19:10 TOI | 118G 60A1 38A1 216P | 728SF | 1264 CF | 181 Blocks | 174 giveaways | 194 takeaways | 84 hits | 277 hits against | 54% faceoffs (2519)
mackinnon 225gp: 21:05 TOI | 115G 107A1 67A2 289P | 967 SF | 1637 CF | 84 Blocks | 158 giveaways | 122 takeaways | 143 hits | 250 hits against | 43% faceoffs (3180)

5v5:
matthews 200gp: 16:00 TOI | 83G 42A1 20A2 145P | 536SF | 756 CF | 165 Blocks | 154 giveaways | 184 takeaways | 81 hits | 249 hits against | 54% faceoffs (2370)
mackinnon 225gp: 16:25 TOI | 70G 63A1 29A2 162P | 682SF | 880CF | 76 Blocks | 122 giveaways | 113 takeaways | 129 hits | 212 hits against | 42% faceoffs (2746)

5v5, where they get similar icetime, matthews is very much in the same realm as MacKinnon (in fact, if you adjust GP, he actually beats him by a point, assuming matthews also played 225 games), especially defensively, and again 2 years younger with 25 less games played and about 1-2 minutes less per game (because of babcock underplaying him)
Forum: Armchair-GM12 nov. 2020 à 18 h 32
Sujet: If PIT Even SNIFFS That Marino Is Taking Over 1RD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>I disagree about McCann being better - I think Jarnkrok is the better overall player, but it's relatively close. I outlined why I'd prefer to have Jarnkrok. Letang's trade value is tricky, because you'd have to find a team that needs him, can absorb his salary, and isn't scared off by his age, injury history, and decline. I'm not sure what teams would be on that list. Nashville wouldn't be one of them. Whatever the potential return for him would be is irrelevant, as it doesn't make sense for PIT to trade him. He's still their best defenseman by a mile, and they appear to be trying to keep their competitive window open for as long as possible.</div></div>

trading Letang isn't tricky. It's not like you are talking about the Burns contract or something. His contract ends in 2 years. There is little risk there. What you see is basically what you get.
If they aren't in the playoffs next year, he probably gets shopped out for a 1st and prospect at deadline or before.
Massive retool will start after next years outcome.