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Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin 2023 à 18 h 20
Sujet: Retooling the Jets
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CARBONNEAU21</b></div><div>I read a projection of what a PLD resigning would cost and it was 9m aav. Thats all Montreal fans need to know. His best season was last in which he scored 63 pts. Thats not a 9 million dollar player, maybe unless 50 of those points are goals. And your right other teams will offer more and I don't believe in this draft Montreal will trade 5 overall</div></div>

According to the report from the Athletic because MTL isn't a contender the price for PLD would be closer to $9M. But he said for a contending team he would take less.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VladislavTretiak</b></div><div>I wish they let another team offer him 8 x $9m. PLD will whine within 2 years and we'll get him for the remaining 6 years of his contract at 50% retained.

I'm not a fan of overpaying for him. I feel sorry for you guys in Winnipeg. I wish you get what you want for him and that it doesn't come from Montreal. Anything beyond Anderson, CAL 2025 1st and Kidney qualifies as an overpay for me.</div></div>

If im a team like BOS, NYR, COL (contending teams) I would slightly over pay for him. The reason being these are teams that have strong leadership and have stars that can out shine PLD. But PLD is a player that has all the tools to be a 1C. We have seen glimpses of it. But because both markets he has played in he has been "The Guy". Whether that meant being a top 3 draft pick in Columbus and pretty much the only skilled played back when he was there. Or in WPG he was always labelled the guy who we got for Laine (who was loved by the fanbase) So he was always focused on. Which it seems he doesnt like.
I'm actually happy with that report that came out from the Athletic because it gives Chevy more leverage against other teams to actually get a decent return for him. kind of like the Tkachuk situation last year.

What would your thoughts be if the package from MTL be Justin Barron, Anderson, and FLA 2023 1st?
Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin 2023 à 18 h 4
Sujet: PLD Drama Comes To An End And Others Are Dealt Too
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Onlyfairtrades1</b></div><div>Trocheck is a good 2C, but for the Rangers, so he isn't being traded for PLD, who isn't that much of an upgrade. Schneider is off limits in a trade because he Trouba's eventual replacement in the near future and will be the foundation of the Rangers D with Fox and Miller for many years. Neither is being traded. The only way PLD comes to NYC is if he signs long term at a cap hit they can deal with and they move out a big cap hit like Panarin. IMO, there is no deal for PLD that makes sense for the Rangers right now unless the Jets want Panarin.</div></div>

Trocheck is 29. NYR getting PLD would mean NYR having PLD at 25, Chytil at 23 down the middle!! Trocheck is easily traded away. PLD has been in 2 markets that he never wanted to be in. He has all the tools and skills to be a 1C!
Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin 2023 à 17 h 49
Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin 2023 à 17 h 43
Sujet: PLD Drama Comes To An End And Others Are Dealt Too
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Wait ... So NYR trade their only RW for another LW?! Kakko is not going anywhere!</div></div>

I agree with this. Kakko is a no deal from NYR.

I really like PLD to NYR. I even did that in one of my ACGM teams. First of all if NYR is on PLD's 5-7 team list I can see him signing a 8 @ $7-8M deal with them. They are a contending team and the report came out saying that he would be willing to take less to sign with a contender. Second, the NYR will have to move salary out so I understand Goodrow being in the package back to the Jets. However the Jets have a big need and that is a RHD. NYR have a what looks like a really good young RHD in Braden Schneider who is stuck behind Trouba and Fox. He isn't jumping ahead of those guys in playing time. Now back to the part where NYR needs to shed salary to fit PLD in. Trocheck is a guy who would be a solid number 2 centre. Chevy has said this is a re-tool so bringing in a guy like Trocheck makes that easier. The only thing is would he waive his no move to come to Winnipeg? doubtful.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 avr. 2022 à 14 h 28
Sujet: Big shake up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cory</b></div><div>Honestly, Its fan driven. For me, I was always great with Scheifele as our 1C. I think this year Dubois emerged as a true 1C though. He may not put up the points like Scheifele, but he plays a full 200' game. Scheifele lacks a lot in the back checking department. He is still a good player who puts up a point per game, but the fan base has soured on him. Unlikely the Jets trade him, because he has a great contract and is a great 2C option for the Jets and a true 1C on most teams.</div></div>

My opinion with Scheif is that his decrease in play is a direct result of the stagnate coaching staff and being dragged down by Wheeler. Wheeler is getting away with poor and lazy playing and Scheif has picked up on that and see that. He sees the "captain" (by name only) dogging it out there and he is getting praised by coaching, management, ownership and Winnipeg media so why should he give it his all? he has his contract no reason in giving a **** since the organization doesn't give a ****. I compare this to the Vancouver Canucks situation. Being a BC resident I heard a lot of what happened out here. When Benning didn't even offer a contract to Toffoli the room gave up on the organization. You could see it in the beginning of the season. But then ownership made a change in management and coaching and now the Canucks are playing totally different since then. Even making a strong push for the playoffs. When people say that players don't care about the ownership or management its all garbage. The players need to know the organization wants to win and the Winnipeg Jets players haven't really seen that from the higher ups. But with Scheif I believe he can get back to the player he was a few seasons ago. Just needs a shake up.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 avr. 2022 à 12 h 30
Sujet: Something old new borrowed and blue
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>If Scheifele wants out than what do you do, I'm sure he's already made a trade request.

I'm hopeful Vesalainen can still turn into something useful but his value is really low, not saying I'd trade him for Patrick but Vesa isn't worth much right now.

Not saying I'd make that Boston trade but Debrusk is doing quite well with the Bruins now, not sure they'll even want to trade him.

Does anyone even want a retained Wheeler, pretty sure its well known around the league what a problem he is, think the Jets are stuck with him and even worse management and/or ownership don't even see him as a problem.</div></div>

Yeah I agree that Vessa will turn into something. But he needs consistent playing time. I hope with the new coaching staff and new management they can see that and make that happen. Vessa is only 22 which still surprises me because it feels like he has been in the Jets system for so long already that he is too old to turn into something. I would argue that Vessa is more valuable than Patrick.

I think Wheeler on a contending team that has pieces that are more productive than Wheeler would take him on. Obviously not at the cap hit he comes with currently. Does anyone know what the rules are for retaining salary? Like if the Jets retained 50% of Wheeler's contract and trade him to, Arizona lets say, How much could Arizona retain of that retained salary? If Arizona could retain 50% of Wheeler's remaining $4M+ salary a team would take him on for just over $2M+. Guy can still score empty nets goals and power play points with the best of them. hahaha.
I agree current management don't see him as a problem, but bring in a new management team and new coaching staff ownership might finally see a new perspective of Wheeler. We have all witnessed that Chipman is all about loyalty. If you have been there since day 1 of Jets 2.0 he has a hard time letting go. Hence why we still have the same coaching staff (minus the head coach) since day 1, same management as day 1.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 avr. 2022 à 12 h 9
Sujet: Blow up the Core
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>That forward group is WAY better than it is now but there's no chance Columbus does that and I think the Oilers need Puljujarvi much more than Morrissey so thats not a trade they'd make. Not so fun fact: The Jets drafted Petan ahead of Bjorkstrand and they both played for Portland.. 😒

I'm one of the few that'd be okay with taking a flyer on Drouin, not sure what I'd give for him though, I really like Chisholm's potential if this stupid organization gives him a legit chance.

Toronto doesn't do that and that 2nd pair would get murdered anyway, I'd keep Dillon.

What you've got here isn't what Arizona is reportedly looking for in a Chycrun trade so they'd decline.

I'm not sure if Korpisalo is any better than Comrie.</div></div>

Thank you!! There are a few Jets fans who are stuck and have drank the kool-aid from Chevy and the ownership group that our players are the be all end all. That could very well be with better coaching and better leadership in the room. But that room and coaching staff need a major shift. So bringing in new players is a way to do that and like I said in a previous post re-engage with the fan base. Show that management is looking to spark something up.
With Edmonton, I looked long at their roster and their D is getting up there in age. Right side they have Bouchard and Barrie. 2 good pieces. On the left they have Nurse who eats ALOT of minutes. Morrissey would fit in well taking some of those minutes and help bring the age down. Barrie is 30, Keith is 37, Russell is 34. Time to strengthen the D in Edmonton. Same kind of thing in Columbus. Except their left side is solid but could really use a #1 right side to help with Boqvist and Blankenburg get to NHL caliber. Blankenburg us having an amazing year in Michigan but hasn't played much in the NHL yet. Bringing in Pionk would help take pressure off them and help their D offensively.

I love Chisholm's game. It's too bad he is a left hand shot that prefers the left side. They have tried moving him to the right but has shown that he is more suited to the left. Being behind guys like Samberg and Heinola is his problem. Going to Montreal where he would get playing time for sure is best for him. When a guy hasn't seemed like himself over the past years I always like reuniting them with a player they have played with before and had success with. Drouin and Ehlers complimented each other well in Halifax and I think that would happen again in the NHL given the chance. Why not take a flyer on him. He has one year left on his contract and if it doesn't work out you don't re-sign him.

Dillion is not great defensively. Also Lijlegren is younger and cheaper and plays the right side. If that pairing does get murdered you put Schmidt with Heinola. They seem to play well together. Lijlegren gives you more than Dillion does.

With the Arizona deal Arizona would be the broker to help retain salary for Wheeler to go to a team that would be on his trade list. The 3rd team maybe throws in a draft pick and another B level prospect.