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Armchair-GM
8 nov. 2020 à 17 h 24
Sujet:
Buyout Strategy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>They will take 1 year deals to hit the cap floor, not 3 year deals, unless the player is younger than 30. . I don’t think Vegas willingly took any 30+ players with 3 year term.
Palmieri will get 5-5.5 mill x 4. So we would open Belmont with 8 out of 12 forwards 30 or over. Not a good strategy. Need to get younger.</div></div>
Seattle will take what teams give them.
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Armchair-GM
8 nov. 2020 à 17 h 2
Sujet:
Buyout Strategy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Yeah but we get screwed in years 2 and 3. It’s a short sighted move. They would save under 2 mill this season. Not worth it
Bailey will not be taken by Seattle. He’ll be turning 32 with 3 years left @5 mill. In Arthur staples article , league execs think they will have a lot of interest in. Koivula, maybe even Aho.
Regardless, signing a 31 year old isn’t smart. He’s on a similar trajectory as ladd. We’re giving up two of our top 6 prospects AND a 1st to get him. Just horrible asset management - it’s the kind of move that can set a team back years - and I know hickey is included.</div></div>
Seattle needs to hit the cap floor. The Isles won't have much else on their main roster to pick from.
Palmieri is going to be 30 next February. I'd sign him to a 2-3 year deal, possibly 4 and they won't have to break the bank to do it. Also, I fixed the trade out. I can include other draft picks if necessary, but I think two prospects will do it.
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Armchair-GM
8 nov. 2020 à 16 h 59
Sujet:
Buyout Strategy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>Dubinsky is going on LTIR, no reason to do the isles trade</div></div>
Removed that from the trade/buyout. Isles don't fully *need* it.
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Armchair-GM
8 nov. 2020 à 16 h 52
Sujet:
Buyout Strategy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>1. Okposo buyout is going to screw us in the 3rd year and the isles would save more money burying boychuk in the 2nd year
2 . extending palmieri means we’d lose beau. He’ll also be 31 in the first year of his new deal. We don’t need any more 30 year olds on long term deals</div></div>
1. It's a short term vs. long term payoff. Isles could use the space now, rather than later.
2. Nah, Bailey or Leddy get moved to Seattle. That covers things.
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Armchair-GM
6 nov. 2020 à 9 h 57
Sujet:
LTIR Strategy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bluejackets2000</b></div><div>Why would Boychuk waive his NMC to go from NYI to Anaheim???
Most players who have earned their contract and NMC would rather play for a contender than go to a rebuilding team.</div></div>
I've heard the weather is better. Also, he'd have the option of going to the AHL or playing in the NHL for Anaheim.
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Armchair-GM
6 nov. 2020 à 9 h 57
Sujet:
LTIR Strategy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jimmyjets</b></div><div>Didn't Ladd just play in game 2 of the Eastern Conference Final?
You need medical to back up going on LTIR and as far as I can tell from his tic toks he still intends to play. You can put him in the minors but hoping to put him on LTIR just isn't going to happen IMO.</div></div>
He wasn't good in the playoffs at all. His knees are legit shot and he can't really push it. Also, this is Lou Lamoriello we're talking about here. He's got Robidas Island for a reason.
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Armchair-GM
6 nov. 2020 à 8 h 38
Sujet:
LTIR Strategy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Ryan Kesler has stated numerous times that he's not waiving his NMC, He'll just finish it out there in Anaheim.</div></div>
It's just the contract, not him. He's not playing anymore. It'd also help Anaheim financially. And he said that in 2019. It'll be nearly 2 years since then.
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Armchair-GM
6 nov. 2020 à 7 h 56
Sujet:
LTIR Strategy
I should also add that Greene and Martin will have a series of 1 year contracts with the Isles as long as they want to play and Trotz wants them.
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Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 10 h 18
Sujet:
Hmmmmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Even going back to his Ottawa days, his defensive metrics were awful. He likes to play a free wheeling style and he actually hurts his team offensively and defensively at even strength. He’s a powerplay specialist because of his shot and he doesn’t even move much - he played on a star studded powerplay with Dadonov , barkov . And huberdeau who found ways to get him the puck.
I doubt we’ll have any extra money to spend on UFAs. . I think there’s a good chance bellows gets moved , for whatever reason the organization isn’t high on him. Wahlstrom needs to be given every shot to make the roster. The isles need to get rid of the learning curve on wahlstrom and allow him to work his way into the top 6. His shot is just as good as Hoffman’s, he can help on the PP immediately and he has what it takes to play in trotz demanding system.</div></div>
I think the only reason why the Isles haven't yet made any moves is because they're waiting to see who they could trade. As a result, the Isles have likely handed multiple contract offers based on those outcomes and have handshake agreements based on it. I like Wahlstrom but I just think it's rushed.
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Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 10 h 15
Sujet:
Hmmmmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Dude Yzerman already said that he's not parting with picks, Especially 3rd round picks at best you'd get future considerations just like the Rangers.</div></div>
So you'd turn down two prospects and a 2nd round pick because you're miffed about giving up a 3rd round pick? Please stop.
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Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 56
Sujet:
Hmmmmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Hoffman has been on the decline for the past two seasons and provides no value at even strength - staple doesn’t think trotz would put him on the 1st line considering he’s one of the worst defensive forwards in the league. He’s is a powerplay specialist.</div></div>
The Panthers weren't exactly GOOD on defense as it is, so that might be a symptom of the way the team played. Isles desperately need a PP specialist as it is. I'd give him a shot for at least 1 year. It's not like there's any other UFA who could elevate the Isles offense- Granlund? Haula? Soderberg? Alt idea would be to consider a Parise trade.
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Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 51
Sujet:
Hmmmmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>That's a terrible trade for Isles as is. They'd at most attach a 3rd to Komarov's deal.</div></div>
I wanted to move out Komarov's contract and make it worth their while. Bellows, after his PED suspension has bleh value on his own. Ishakov is a unknown. The draft pick seals the deal. I could go for Komarov and a 2nd for the 3rd and see if it works.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 25
Sujet:
Hmmmmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ForsbergForVezina</b></div><div>I'm starting to think Ladd goes to LTIR as well, I think we're desperate enough and they'll be able to "make something up." Or maybe he'll have an actually nagging injury, who knows.
I'd rather not trade more assets than we have to, so if we can comfortably sign Barzal and Pulock with the Ladd money (pretty likely) and also find a taker for Boychuk, I'd stop there and then bring in one of AA, Duclair or Hoffman, not two. I've been pretty vocal about my disinterest in Hoffman, but having him for a year or two wouldn't be the end of the world, he still would be a spark to the PP and probably be a little better offensively next to Nelson or Barzal. I'm more interested in Duclair or AA, they can probably provide better value and you don't have to worry about them regressing due to age. I'd rather just sign one of them and then pocket the cap space for next year.
I'm convinced we're going to make a big run at Hall next offseason</div></div>
Ladd's knees and hips are shot. He was directly responsible for losing Game 2 against the Lightning, and I think he knows he's done. At some point he has to realize that he's taken too much damage to his lower body and it's going to become a quality of life situation. They let him play in the playoffs as a going away present- and even then, only b/c Cizikas got hurt.
Hoffman might be a problem in the locker room if he brings the Karlsson crap with him, but I don't think he will (the Isles are run far too professionally to allow that). He'd be an immediate boost to the 1st line- the kind of player Barzal needs to succeed. It'd also force other teams to focus on the Isles 1st line, and free up more matchups for their 2nd and 3rd lines. I also don't have an issue with the Isles keeping Hoffman for 1 year and then transitioning to Hall after this season. Duclair or Athanasiou have value, but if the Isles get the 1st line guy they need, they only need one of them.
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Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 20
Sujet:
Hmmmmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Wahlstrom was the 2nd best offensive forward on the isles during his 9 games and he was above average defensively. At some point this organization has to put their prospects in a position to succeed and not bury them in the minors with Brent Thompson until they’re 24 YO.</div></div>
Wahlstrom's not ready- I'd give him more time in the AHL (or overseas) and work on his overall game. That being said, he's a midseason callup if there's an injury.
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Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 1 h 18
Sujet:
Hmmmmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>No third back and wings agree</div></div>
So you'd say no to two prospects and a 2nd because you don't want to part with a third? C'mon.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 0 h 21
Sujet:
Tin foil hat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>joshelkin</b></div><div>I'm not looking for Palmieri more so just freeing up the cap to use on a current FA/1 yr deal then that space allocated toward next year RFAs</div></div>
Moving out Palmieri isn't a necessary deal for NJD, but it might be a smarter long term deal if they can get prospects/picks back. Plus, Zajac, Murray, Kulikov, and Carrick will all be UFAs next year. I think Zajac isis done unless he wants to keep playing for $1-$2 million per season. I don't see the Devils keeping the rest of the guys unless they put up stellar numbers. Additionally, there's no telling if any UFAs will want to go to NJ. I'd take players who can help them now and later, just in case they (probably) need the depth.
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Armchair-GM
29 oct. 2020 à 0 h 17
Sujet:
Tin foil hat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Ty Smith was the last cut in 2018 as an 18-year old. Since then, he has been CHL d-man of the year and two-time WHL d-man of year. I think he is ready. He probably starts year as #3 RD.
Bastian has been in AHL for 3 years (and GM said he was reason he let some guys walk in free agency). He will get his shot in bottom-6.
Boqvist is a guy they want to complete for top-6 minutes, so may go back to AHL if he doesn't perform.
Foote will play if he makes team, otherwise can go back to juniors for a year.
Merkley and Kuokkanen are also NHL-ready. Maltsev and Schnarr are close.
Bahl probably needs another year. Walsh is wild-card to make team.
NJD has insane depth in their prospect pool. No reason to bury many of these guys. Komarov, Boychuck would hinder their future and Bellows wouldn't even be in their top-10 prospects.</div></div>
I'm not sold, to be honest. CHL and WHL are good but they're leagues apart from the AHL. Juniors as well. Most 19 and 20 year olds aren't up to speed yet. It's even more so dealing with NHL defensive capabilities. Also, just because a team has prospects doesn't mean they're actually any good, or they develop at the pace the team wants.
And again, they're going to need to field an AHL team. Might be worth it to get these guys more time in the AHL (and potentially mid-season callups if needed) .
Unless they're really really ready, I'd let them mature in the AHL more.
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Armchair-GM
28 oct. 2020 à 15 h 27
Sujet:
Tin foil hat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>joshelkin</b></div><div>This trade in the realm of what you're talking about?</div></div>
Maybe. I'd probably throw in Palmieri in there because he's a free agent after this season and you'd rather get value for him now than at the deadline. I'd trade Hickey, Boychuk or Komarov, Bellows, and 2021 2nd round pick (COL) and 2022 2nd round pick (COL). If the Isles get Palmieri, I'd be willing to move Bode Wilde or Wahlstrom to do it (provided Palmieri signs an extension).
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Armchair-GM
28 oct. 2020 à 15 h 22
Sujet:
Tin foil hat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>16 players according to CapFriendly...Bastian, Ty Smith will be added.
As will RFAs, Blackwood and Bratt.
They don't need to add players.
Boqvist, Seney, Kuokkanen, Merkley, Foote, Walsh, Bahl, etc.
Remember, you are dealing with one of the deepest pipelines in NHL.
I don't see Bastian listed? Smith is 20, I din't know if I'd want him up in the NHL yet. Same with Boqvist, Foote, and Bahl. They're REALLY young...and you still need to have an AHL team. I'd go for the trade if only to get either Boychuk or Komarov just to get the additional prospects/picks. Komarov's $3 million isn't going to kill them.</div></div>
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Armchair-GM
28 oct. 2020 à 14 h 3
Sujet:
Tin foil hat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>The VAN speculation came from the guy who covers Vancouver for The Athletic.
I think NJD would only move their cap space for a worthwhile player (ie, Sergachev, Pulock, etc) but not for Bellows and some picks.
I am guessing most in league are in same boat.
Only teams with space are NJD, OTT, DET, NSH, FLA, LAK, CBJ - all with exception of CBJ and NSH had the cap space a month ago. So if they haven't done this type of trade by now, its probably not happening.</div></div>
You give the Devils prospects or draft picks worth talking about and I think they'll play ball. Don't forget that they ONLY have 16 players signed (and I know they have to sign Blackwood and Bratt). They're going to need add-ons. Might as well get them through taking on cap dumps.
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Armchair-GM
28 oct. 2020 à 14 h 2
Sujet:
Tin foil hat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>What happened: Teams started signing free agents. Available cap space become more rare. Price went up.
NYI should have moved quickly. TB too.</div></div>
I think everyone's waiting for more clarity on what the season will look like next year before they do additional moves. As a result, cap dumps haven't happened yet because they don't need to.
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Armchair-GM
28 oct. 2020 à 13 h 57
Sujet:
Ideal semi-realistic offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Radu47</b></div><div>Josh rewards your trust with
14 goals 37 assists 51 points
Significantly positive Corsi
Decent defensive play
Namaste 🙏</div></div>
I'm not sure he'll be that good, but I think he'll actually play this season. Ho-Sang has to realize that no one wanted him and the only ONLY way that he makes it will be with the Islanders.
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28 oct. 2020 à 13 h 56
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Ideal semi-realistic offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Detroit declines, If Detroit takes anyone from the isles it's Boychuk not Komarov. Way too much to give up for Boychuk, Wilde+Bellows+Colorado's 2021 2nd+New York islanders 2022 2nd round pick+New York islanders 2021 3rd round pick is too much to give up for Boychuk.</div></div>
I don't know, I think Komarov would be a better fit for their forward depth. And Yzerman would probably view getting a 2nd rounder and Ishakov as overall value.
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Armchair-GM
13 sept. 2020 à 12 h 0
Sujet:
Isles 2020-2021
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>Every time I see someone talk about LTIR as increasing the cap ceiling or like this ACGM I just want to post that candy crush gif.
DRW will hit the cap floor just fine without taking on cap dump players and paying for them. You want to offload Boychuk/Ladd then pay up as no one is paying you for the privilege of taking problems are your hands. It’s just like how Pitt fans wanted a 3/4th round pick for Bjugstad with no retention. What did he go for with 50% rentention? :sarcasm
Zetterberg’s contract is insured too so doesn’t cost us anything.</div></div>
I'm not offloading Boychuk's contract so don't "sarcasm" me. LTIR money isn't the problem, it's the cap hit that helps/hurts the cap.
And if you're going to "sarcasm" me again, I'll report you. I don't play the internet game. Play nice.
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13 sept. 2020 à 3 h 12
Sujet:
Isles 2020-2021
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AnyoneButTheBruins</b></div><div>I understand there's a flat cap but I doubt players will be taking less otherwise the NHLPA will be all over that and we would have probably seen a free buyout. I don't think players are going to take less if the team tries to low ball them they will arbitrate it and more than likely get close to what they want. Obviously this isn't the case for all RFA's but for Mantha and Bert it is. Just look at the Marleau contract they had to trade a first because their cap situation and Isles are in a pretty bad cap situation as well and Ladd's contract is for 3 more year his contract is worse than Abdelkader's and his play level is pretty comparable, so there's not a fat chance I'm taking on that contract without getting something in return and if have to hit the cap floor we can sign some actual nhl players that can contribute 6 million dollars worth of play level not 1-1.5.</div></div>
Players are already talking about taking lower contracts. No one's paying $10 million. It's not just the flat cap, it's the fact that we don't even know if there will be fans in the stands in 2021, and how much the boycotts pissed the fanbases off. And we'll have to make sure the US and Canada can have international flights again, too.
Some teams are financially okay cap wise for next season, provided they don't want to add a lot. Otherwise, there are only a few teams that aren't close to the cap and it's not enough to move the UFA needle. (Don't forget that guys like Barzal are RFAs- and he doesn't have arbitration rights*). All of this is going to limit the ability of players to swing massive contracts in the short term. How short? Don't know. They'll still get good contracts, though.
*$7.5 million is also right in the pre-2020 range for Barzal. It's comparable to what talent on and around his level made in their RFA contracts. Again, I built in space with my cap that would allow me the flexibilty to add/subtract. And I can always move Hickey and dump Ross Johnson into the minors. And if Ladd is willing to go LTIR I don't even need to pull a trigger on a Wings trade, although I like how it'd work out for both teams.
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