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Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 23 h 57
Sujet:
Dunn and VT91
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>xercuses</b></div><div>Give us dunn back lmao
All in all good trades
but dunn gets at least 4.5</div></div>
Yeah I don't hate the trades (although I'd want Tarasenko at less AAV), and if I was StL I'd be pretty high on Bode Wilde- he had a bad ankle fracture and then covid hit, which is why his stats are very meh. As for Dunn, I don't think he gets $4.5 (he's still something of an unproven commodity) but I'd definitely do $3.0 to $3.5 at 4 years.
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Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 15 h 29
Sujet:
21-22
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Looking at it more closely, Sami Vatanen was claimed by Dallas and Christian Djoos was claimed by Detroit.
Everybody else claimed off waivers this year have cap hits under a million each.
So, yeah, it doesn't happen that often.
That doesn't stop GMs like Lou Lamoriello from taking time out of their day to place Komorov on waivers after thinking it over however.</div></div>
Pretty sure Lou would have been really happy to see Komarov taken, but he knew that he wouldn't be because of the flat cap (and the fact that his contract still had 1.5 years at that point). Now at 1 X $3 million his contract looks a lot more interesting, especially for teams that could use a 3rd/4th line veteran presence.
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Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 15 h 26
Sujet:
Gloria
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>1- I was saying that because he seemed to think you were a Blues fan despite your user name literally saying "canucks" in it and your profile saying you're a Canucks fan.
2- Well, the Isles certainly do and the Devils would also if they had any hope of competing to some extent. There's also Carolina supposedly hot for Tank. Despite all the "friednly advice" Chicken Little catterwauling going on around here, the Blues hold the cards. They can simply hold onto him and allow his value to skyrocket when he proves all he needed was a proper preseason (which very well may happen).
3- That offer sheet stuff works both ways. Offer sheeting Kyrou would bring Thor's hammer down, and probably repeatedly.</div></div>
1. I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm an Isles fan.
2. The Isles are bringing back Palmieri and have a deep set of RWs. They can roll out Golyshev, Parise, and Bellows at LW3. Isles probably need a LD2 but they likely will bring up Bolduc and/or Salo for that.
3. Tarasenko has had three shoulder surgeries. He might have value, he might not. Trading him will be about managing risk, not about getting a player in his prime. The Blues have only $6 million in cap space and have zero room to negotiate with the RFAs on offer sheets. There's no "hammer" to flex with. Offer sheet Kyrou at $3.75 million and Thomas at $3.25 million and see how Armstrong wiggles out of that. He could, but it would be extremely painful. That's what I mean about not having any cards with Tarasenko's $7.5 million sinkhole on the cap.
4. The Kraken didn't even want Tarasenko for free. What's his trade value now?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 13 h 19
Sujet:
21-22
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>League minimum from last year was 700k.
San Jose claimed Rudolfs Balcers from us while we claimed Victor Mete from Montreal.
They both made 735k.
So, those are two examples.
Not sure if there are others :(</div></div>
This actually makes my point for me.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 13 h 18
Sujet:
Gloria
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>This guy is not Blues fan, obviously.</div></div>
I don't have anything against the Blues; I'm being realistic about the options that are available to Armstrong. Isles (and Devils and Rangers) don't really need Tarasenko. He'd be a nice addition at the right price, but that's about it.
And if I was a SMRT general manager I'd offer sheet Kyrou- or at least threaten to do so- and then open up talks about Tarasenko with all the cards in hand.
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Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 2 h 32
Sujet:
Gloria
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trotz2020</b></div><div>Wow that might be the worst Tarasenko trade I have seen yet.</div></div>
I think this is worse than the other one. Why on God's green earth would VT be worth one of the best 2nd line two-way centers in the NHL and a D2 highly competent shutdown guy? You know, the guy who literally shut down Crosby and Hall? I like Sundqvist but it's like people don't know that the Isles made it to the conference finals 2 straight seasons.
I should just make Lou Lamoriello offer sheets for Kyrou to annoy Blues fans.
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Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 2 h 29
Sujet:
Wouldnt This Be Something
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trotz2020</b></div><div>So I just commented two minutes ago that another Blues fan posted the worst Tarasenko to the Islanders trade. This my friend is even worse than his. You get the gold for dumbest Islanders trade. Congratulations!</div></div>
Completely agree. Beauviller is young, Tarasenko isn't. Mayfield's better. Tarasenko's a cap dump and Blues fans need to get over it.
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Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 2 h 23
Sujet:
Threesome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>:laugh :laugh Detroit's not retaining $3,750,000 x 2 on Vladimir Tarasenko for 2 cap dumps and a late 1st round pick. Need to offer us far better then this.</div></div>
A late first round pick is better than no first round pick. Isles just got Aatu Raty with the 52nd pick. Salary retention and two players who will play on the majors this year on expiring contracts that the Wings can also flip at the deadline for more picks? And the 1st round pick? Sure, Yzerman would do that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 2 h 20
Sujet:
21-22
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Komarov was placed on waivers this season and nobody claimed him.
That means an actual GM would not value him as much as you say.
Sorry :)</div></div>
And how many players above league minimum were picked off of waivers this past year?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 2 h 18
Sujet:
enough for Jack and Taresenko
Why do people think that Pelech and Pulock are going anywhere? Eichel's got a bad neck and a massive contract. Isles have 4 centers already. Everything points to Kevyn Adams trying desperately NOT to cap dump Eichel, but that's exactly what he's going to have to do in the end.
"But I want them for my team" is wishcasting in bad faith. You're not getting the best defensive combo in hockey and the Isles aren't moving them just to make an offensive splash. Stop it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 août 2021 à 2 h 11
Sujet:
I think this is Lous IDEAL vision for the team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StLHockey</b></div><div>I’m not the one who made the trade and as I said Armstrong’s goal is to move the money. According to reports today it’s between NYR NYI and NJD. So I would imagine it’s down to who takes the most money, then the best return.</div></div>
The Blues aren't getting any top line prospects or draft picks from any of the teams. Pretty sure at least one of those teams is a red herring and isn't actually in the running (it actually could be the Isles).
The reality is that Tarasenko's injury history and desire for a trade (and the lack of moving him to Seattle) has effectively tanked his value, and that keeps going down with each passing day. And the Blues only have $6 million to sign Sanford, Kyrou, and Thomas and are in big danger of an offer sheet. Getting even an extra $3.75 million off the cap will help resign those guys and move on.
Here's what Lamoriello would likely say to Armstrong "You have to move VT, we don't have to take him. But we'll take on his entire cap hit but you'd have to give us something in return. Or maybe we'll offer sheet Kyrou instead." Armstrong's fooling himself if he thinks that he can play teams off of one another for VT. Rangers and Devils aren't contenders and would be making a move to make a move. They are years away and know it. They can and will walk away with their draft futures. If those rumors are correct, Isles are the only real market in town, unless another team strikes out on Eichel and settles for Tarasenko.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août 2021 à 17 h 11
Sujet:
I think this is Lous IDEAL vision for the team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StLHockey</b></div><div>If Armstrong’s goal is to shed salary, taking on Leo and retaining is probably not happening</div></div>
You're not getting a prospect and a draft pick without retaining salary and taking on salary for a guy with 3 shoulder surgeries who's disgruntled and is being paid $7.5m AAV. Short term pain, long term gain.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août 2021 à 15 h 9
Sujet:
Cone of Silence
Beau will not get Tarasenko; he's the good young guy with future upside you trade for Eichel in a package deal. Tarasenko's shoulder history will turn him into a cap dump rather than a hockey trade for futures.
Also, if you're getting Kesler he doesn't really work with LTIR well and the Isles already HAVE Boychuk on LTIR and effectively have a cap ceiling of $87.5, not $81.5.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août 2021 à 15 h 6
Sujet:
I think this is Lous IDEAL vision for the team
Why is Bailey at RW2? You can rotate him to his natural LW position. Also, Parise would be on the bench and Wahlstrom should start as Db1899 said at LW3. You also haven't used any of Boychuk's LTIR overages towards the cap. Isles can aim higher if they want (and I think they do).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 août 2021 à 15 h 4
Sujet:
Lou does What We Think and More
The Isles can easily keep Clutterbuck, you haven't used any of the LTIR overages from Boychuk, and Parise goes to the bench as a depth role. There's no reason to have Parise on the 4th line and Martin playing his off-side. Just keep TB4LIH together and rotate in guys as needed with depth (I'd also keep Koivula and move Bellows in the Nashville trade). Lou will also find a way to keep Cizikas' contract under AAV (he'll go term instead). Sorokin also likely gets $3X2. Isles may also want to get Murray as a depth defenseman over Aho, who's undersized for a Trotz system.
Lee-Barzal-Wahlstrom
Forsberg-Nelson-Bailey
Beauviller-Pageau-Palmieri
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck
D1: Pelech-Pulock
D2: Ekholm-Mayfield
D3: Greene-Dobson
Depth: Parise, Aho, Zajac
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 mars 2021 à 11 h 17
Sujet:
Lees Out Option 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeauxPreds1</b></div><div>Well have money to sign forsberg and will do just that if poile doesn’t get a massive over pay. This isn’t it. A better deal would be offered if forsberg actually came available</div></div>
You won't have money, because the team will be in rebuild and Forsberg will be on the outside of that. You also won't keep Forsberg, because he'll want to play for a contender. Trade him now, rather than later. Name any other team that can get you 3 prospects and a 1st round draft pick AND has the money to make it work.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 mars 2021 à 23 h 47
Sujet:
Lees Out Option 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BobbyD</b></div><div>Is Nashville looking to rid themselves of Forsberg? If so, then this is a plausible deal</div></div>
Yeah, he's going to be on the market, as will a lot of the other UFA/close to UFA guys. They're not going to want to tread the waters of mediocrity especially with some of the pricier contracts that are harder to move. Trading Forsberg now will get them to relevancy faster later.
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Armchair-GM
12 mars 2021 à 23 h 46
Sujet:
Lees Out Option 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeauxPreds1</b></div><div>Poile will not trade forsberg unless it’s a massive overpay and this isn’t close to that. Forsberg is only 26 years old and could be a key piece helping to develop the younger kids about to come up. Tolvanen has already benefited playing with him already.</div></div>
Predators aren't going to keep him when he hits UFA after next season. Few teams now and later will have the ability to trade for him. Nashville doesn't have a lot of internal $$ to spend. Move him out, get prospects now for him, and then buy out Ladd later on.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 mars 2021 à 15 h 5
Sujet:
Lees Out Option 2
Isles were already out of a top level draft pick for last year's draft, and I think they don't want to do that again, especially not for a rental.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 mars 2021 à 14 h 57
Sujet:
Lees Out Option 1
Yeah, he's a grinder but a good one. I can see Trotz floating him around the lineup. But I agree about Beau.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 nov. 2020 à 15 h 43
Sujet:
Buyout Strategy 20
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>The buyout window closed.
Bolduc is at least 2-3 years away. Wilde needs a full year in the AHL.
Koivula is ready. He’s defensively responsible and he has continued to produce wherever he goes. 9 pts in 10 games in the finish league right now. Wahlstrom is ready as well. They don’t seem to like bellows so even if he ready he won’t get a shot. If they don’t trade him before the season starts they will likely bury him in the AHL and he’ll probably get selected by Seattle.</div></div>
I'm keeping an open mind to the buyouts. Things are fluid with the coming season. Don't make grand assumptions.
Bolduc would be a fill-in at best. Wilde isn't close. Koivula I like but I think he's on the cusp but hasn't taken that next step. Same with Wahlstrom.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 nov. 2020 à 15 h 41
Sujet:
Buyout Strategy 20
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>I’d disagree with that. Oilers have solid depth at the moment and Neal was scoring goals at a great rate last season before busting his foot was on pace for 30. Even being mostly pp production it’s still worth keeping around burn another year off his term then explore options next offseason. Outside of a very minor trade belief is oilers are done and set for next year.</div></div>
Neal's scoring was deceptive. He had 9 goals in his first 8 games last season and then only 10 goals the rest of the season. He wasn't really that productive, and this is partially a financial decision- he's owed more than Hickey/Komarov and they can use the defense right now with Klefbom out (Hickey isn't a negative; the Isles just have other guys who have displaced him).
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Armchair-GM
15 nov. 2020 à 15 h 33
Sujet:
Buyout Strategy 20
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>I’d sooner keep Neal in Edmonton than pull the trigger on that deal. No offence</div></div>
Edmonton needs depth and Hickey and Komarov can do that. Neal doesn't add anything, and it's financially a win for the Oilers.
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Armchair-GM
15 nov. 2020 à 15 h 32
Sujet:
Buyout Strategy 20
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>You can't buyout Neal, And a 8 year deal with Matt Barzal is going to cost more then $8.5 million per probably closer to $10 million per. And what's wrong with Ladd that he might wind up on LTIR?</div></div>
1. I don't know if the buiyout window has closed. A lot of teams are waiting to see when the season begins/how long it is. My take is that things are extremely fluid with the CBA and there are clauses that we don't entirely know. Neal isn't the only option here.
2. Ladd's knees ARE shot. He's had too many surgeries. He only played in the ECF becaue the team had no one else on the roster left in the bubble. And then he sucked. He's going LTIR and will say hellow to Robidas.
3. With the NHL finances as they are going forward I can't see Barzal wanting to risk injury or regression for the sake of a short term contract. Isles CAN go higher AAV but I wouldn't go past $9.5 AAV.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 nov. 2020 à 0 h 49
Sujet:
Buyout Strategy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>If Seattle has an option of Leddy, koivula, bailey, and Aho - they aren’t taking bailey, who’s on the decline. It’s better for them to take Leddy, who will have 1 year left and then they can sign better UFAs the following year.</div></div>
And now we're back to what I originally said.
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