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Forum: NHLil y a 15 heures Forum: NHLil y a 17 heures <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>arafay</b></div><div>These teams rush their players/don’t have the depth to prevent these young guys from playing. Confidence is everything for a young guy (or really any player), and coming out of the first round into a big market team is not easy. Add in that these teams basically immediately push these players into top 6/top 4 roles with stars who go up against the other teams’ best and it kills their confidence.
That is my opinion. Take many teams who have successfully developed players for example. In philly, couturier was not rushed, even though the flyers had all the reason to do so. One of the best examples is in Winnipeg. Scheifele, Connor, Morrissey, and ehelrs all are all products of taking it slow with young guys, (two of whom spent entire season in the ahl first).
While no development model is perfect, I think these two teams (especially the rangers) have a tendency to rush their players</div></div>
I agree with this a lot. But NYR stand out because of their recent fumbles. Another team would be MTL.
Not allowing a player to grow with confidence. Yeah sure a player may do well on a great 3rd line in the NHL - but the AHL ain’t easy, imo I’d rather Eklund (my own teams example) cook another year with direct development and goals. In the AHL/ not the NHL; players have the opportunity to develop their game and weaknesses while building forward.
Once you hit the NHL you have a full time schedule, less practice, practice is team focused, and less 1 on 1 development or focus with direction. So with Eklund I’m glad he was sent down because it was the right call not to RUIN THE ASSET. Who cares how shiney that asset is, you don’t want to break it. You get time to improve outside the NHL, you don’t get that time once you’re there; you have to perform.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>I think the problem is teams like the rangers rush players and put them with bad players. it’s actually better for a young players development to put them with stars against tough competition than in a sheltered role with replacement level forwards.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>arafay</b></div><div>I think that depends on the player. For example, to start, I don’t think kappo or laf should have been playing with panarin 5 on 5. Let them score a few points and then move them in as they gain confidence. It also comes to the point of depth you mentioned, a lot of these teams simply don’t have the players to properly introduce these young skilled guys and hence have to play them with the likes of panarin for example.</div></div>
I think Laf is a hard example. For me Laf wasn’t the best in class - as bold as that is too say I woulda went with Stutzle first overall. But Raymond wasn’t on my radar to the degree of Stutzle, and Raymond’s doing fantastic.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>The draft is a crap shoot.</div></div>
In part it comes down to this but really good scouting and development should help reduce that crap shoot. So when you’re bad at scouting or development it’s very noticeable. And even more so when you’re bad at both. Tampa is a great team for highlighting development and I’ll use Detroit as a team with great scouting. You notice how great those two teams help reduce that “crapshoot”.
Whereas scouting and development hasn’t done so well in NYR, MTL as of late.