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Forum: Trade Machine Proposalslun. à 23 h 37
Sujet: Sens D moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Augustus</b></div><div>Would Detroit exchange Maatta and the 16th overall pick in the 2024 draft to acquire Jakob Chychrun? I think possibly. Getting another 1st round pick will help ease the sting of the Senators having to give one up probably in 2026, for the Dadonov trade debacle.The second part of this is that, since the Kings may not be able to afford him, the Senators push hard to sign Matt Roy.
Ott:
Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - <em>Roy</em>
<em>Maatta</em> - Bernard-Docker
Det:
Walman - Seider
<em>Chychrun</em> - Petry
Edvinsson - Chiarot</div></div>

It would be nice but I have to agree with <a href="/users/CoachCoach" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@CoachCoach</a>. The Wings have other areas that need to be addressed before we start upgrading other positions.
Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 22 h 15
Sujet: Lets try even spicier
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CoachCoach</b></div><div>Detroit is at the end of the rebuild. On the back end, Mo has arrived, Edvinsson joins full time next season. Wallinder/Johansson aren’t far behind…. Followed by ASP.

In net, Cossa and Augustine are developing nicely.

Up front, Danielson and Kasper seem like a nice 2/3C combo behind Larkin (assuming their development continues). Winger will be the position of need as it’s the weakest in the prospect pipeline.</div></div>

Interesting little history dive, Stevey Y and Verbeek took over from Holland before the 2019 draft in Detroit, their draft picks in the first round were Seider, Raymond, and Edvinsson. Steven Y's first "miss", if you can call it that, was after Verbeek left in Kasper.

Really is too bad wings fans had to suffer under Hollands inability to draft. I'm wondering now if Verbeek looked at the 2020 draft and decided he wouldn't have taken Drysdale at 6 and hence that's why he traded for Gauthier.
Forum: Armchair-GM14 avr. à 8 h 57
Sujet: EA SPORTS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CoachCoach</b></div><div>Ah, so I did miss that. In that regard yes I see what you’re saying. I do also agree with your premise that Chicago would be better suited acquiring a FA (like Chatfield) as they can give him the contract they want at the term they deem fair (assuming the FA accepts) unless the incentive is worth it.</div></div>

All gravy. I figured you must have skimmed over some context. We all do it. haha.

But, Yeah. I think, with the wealth of picks and prospects CHI currently has, they should avoid taking on more cap dumps unless it involves bringing higher quality assets into the system, and they should be more than willing to package 2nd round (preferably, that aren't their own) and later picks together to balance value and make it happen. Whether that be higher end prospects or 1st round picks.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 avr. à 19 h 16
Sujet: Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Davidson</b></div><div>It’s understandable for the acquiring team to “overestimate” the “negative value” of the player especially in the context presented here.

When discussing the cost of moving a player at the time it is done has significant implications.

In my opinion the best times to take on a contract are before the draft and free agency OR right before the season starts for a team with low flexibility. The reasons should be rather obvious as to why these values are different to during the deadline.

Again, if Detroit isn’t interested in moving him, or at least not in this specific trade, that’s fine. I don’t think a 4th round pick will get it done either and Chicago is really in a quality vs quantity debate right now. Maybe a team like Nashville would even pay Detroit for Fabbri.

My proposal is based heavily on the draft pick value calculator from puckpedia. Sure, it takes out contextual information like the usefulness of a player like Fabbri, but in the context of moving a 4 million dollar man it says it costs an early 2nd historically. The difference between Tampas and Detroits pick as presented is calculated as a mid-late 2nd (Rd 2 #46). In that case, Detroit comes out slightly ahead in historical value to account for the usefulness of a player like Fabbri. I still think it’s a fair trade, but it depends on who has the appetite to do it.</div></div>

I'm not sure what you consider significant implications but you have 2 players with 21 goals and Fabbri has 18 goals. Fabbri's ppg .50 and Chicago has 3 players with a better ppg not a big deal until you look at TOI Bedard is the only player with a higher p/60 with a 2.9 and Fabbri's p/60 is 2.3 and is tied with Kurashev for 2nd. People on here don't like certain players for a number of reasons but the simple truth is Fabbri would make Chicago better not a lot better but at least a 4th or a 5th better. He is out producing your #2C despite playing 3min less a game. So thinking Detroit is going to move back out of the lottery to move a $4M contract just isn't very logical.

The draft pick value chart is a guideline at best and people on this site put way too much stock in to it. If you're trading a pick for a pick or a pick for a couple of picks then yeah that draft pick chart is useful but you aren't doing that in this situation. There just isn't a way to apply set of guide lines to a trade like this you really can't even compare other trades like this to one another. There are just too many factors to consider and those factors change deal to deal.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 avr. à 23 h 38
Sujet: Wings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CoachCoach</b></div><div>Understandable, and yes he is a great player. But to think you’re getting a top end D prospect who went 6th, another high end C prospect who went 9, a possible lottery pick, and more for a guy who still has his blemishes is just as unrealistic.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jacketsman61</b></div><div>Which is the reason why the Jackets aren’t trading him🙂</div></div>

He's equally as likely to be traded as Larkin.

Danielson, Edvinsson, and 2024 1st is rich for the player, but it's also not far off from realistic for how much it would take to make Columbus <em>actually</em> part with a guy who, at 26, is already the franchise's all-time leader among D-men in goals, assists, and points, regularly the best player on the ice, and likely next in line for the captaincy.

It's a little like the Boone discussion: yeah, the player is worth X, but to <em>actually </em> get him...well, how attached is your GM to his job?
Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 9 h 55
Sujet: Potential blockbuster draft trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Ehh Edvinsson absolutely has the ceiling to be as good as Werenski is. And as noted, Werenski has missed like 150 games over the last five seasons. "When healthy" is a rather sizable condition.</div></div>

Even if he has the ceiling, teams don't trade an established star that fits their timeline one-for-one for a similar player with an equal ceiling. The mystery box could be anything, even a boat!

It only makes sense if Werenski was on a deal expiring soon and didn't want to re-sign (which the opposite is true) or if Columbus decided to start another full rebuild right now (which, why would one of the youngest teams in the league with one of the best prospect pools already decide that's the best course of action?). Not knocking Edvinsson, it's just a matter of team construction.

If Columbus is purely looking for a stylistic and leadership change, it makes far more sense to move Jenner (who's older, on less term, the captain, and plays a slower, more physical style), but the team isn't even willing to have <em>that </em>conversation.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars à 15 h 22
Sujet: Making Seider and his deployment lighter
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Well Maata-Ghost would be the ideal 3rd pair but they can’t get rid of Holl, Chiarot and Petry lol.

Steve Yzerman is actually Cole Eiserman as a GM . One way talent not an all around talent</div></div>

Very limited on what was available each year. Trying to make a roster better by almost strictly signing free agents for temporary fixes is quite difficult. Considering last season we had the 24th best offense and now are currently ranked 8th. Been near the top all season long as well. The team is a bit better defensively as well, although it may not seem like it.
The plan is to build through the draft. Most of the players signed will not be around when this team is competitive.
But again, looking at who was available at free agency, we did alright.
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mars à 14 h 39
Sujet: Yzerready
Bunting really isn't worth that. We could find someone else through free agency or just re-sign Perron to fill that role until a prospect, likely Mazur for playstyle, fills that spot.
Boqvist isn't worth close to that. That pick right now is looking like a lottery pick. He is maybe worth taking a chance on to be a powerplay QB but really Seider can fill that as well if we don't re-sign Gostisbehere. If we did go after Boqvist, we likely need to keep Maatta to partner with him since he is not good in his own end, Maatta can at least cover for him. That would then block Edvinsson from getting a spot since more the likely Chiarot doesn't go anywhere. Also, Chiarot would not be a good partner for Boqvist, that pairing would get exposed so badly. We should be looking for a partner for Edvinsson more than a project on the right side. Tanev, Roy or Demelo would be really good options for that.
No reason for Arizona to do that trade, I think they like McBain and they paid more than that for him. Another pick does nothing for them.
Don't see Cossa being ready for backup duties yet, wouldn't be awful but I think another year in the AHL would be good for him. I would love for him to prove me wrong though.
Also have a hard time seeing that many rookies on the team, would really love it if they proved they could play though.