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Forum: Armchair-GM22 mars 2022 à 14 h 55
Sujet: Interesting
For starters the Rangers literally do not have the cap space to accommodate Kane next year (even at 50% retained) without being forced to cap dump in other areas. That would create a huge hole at 2C since they don't have one under contract. Then there's the fact that Kane barely moves the needle for the Rangers. A lot of his positive impact comes from the power play at this stage of his career and the Rangers quite literally do not need help in that department. Then there's the price you set which frankly the Rangers would laugh at. Rangers refused to trade Lafreniere in any package for Eichel, so why would they trade him for Kane? Othmann should be considered off limits too unless its in a package for a young cost controlled C, his potential to provide cheap scoring for 3 years of an ELC makes his value too great (and needed) for the Rangers. I doubt they would trade either of those two straight up for Kane, let alone together with even more assets.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars 2022 à 13 h 12
Sujet: NYR Fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheMooterus</b></div><div>Nowhere did I mention a 1-for-1 deal. I’m well aware the Stars would need to add to the deal. The whole purpose of this was to see what Rangers fans would want Dallas to add in order for Lundkvist to be on the table, given that 1) They have been linked to Radulov, and 2) Lundkvist isn’t a top-3 RD on the Rangers roster for the foreseeable future (Fox, Trouba, Schneider)</div></div>

I didn't say you thought they'd do it 1-1, I'm just saying the value is so far off that there is no reason try and form a framework with it. The reports from NYR's beat is that Lundkvist is only going to be moved for a forward (preferably center) that has term and is cheap enough they can fit under the cap next year. Based on that the only players who fit that bill on the Stars are Robertson (lol) and Hintz (also probably not happening).
Forum: Armchair-GM5 mars 2022 à 1 h 4
Sujet: Miller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigShoots</b></div><div>2023 first is much more valuable. Getting a first in what is shaping to be one of best drafts in recent memory would be huge. Bolduc is a recent 1st. So you are getting two 1st, 2 2nds and Bellows. You actually believe Miller will return more than that? I mean the trade might be to a different team for different assets but in terms of value this proposals is on the high side of what I think is possible. Even this I don't expect anyone to offer this much.

100% they're not getting Dobson.</div></div>

Bolduc was a late 2nd rounder that was taken 3 drafts ago who hasn't cracked the bigs yet, he may be an NHLer some day but he definitely is not the equivalent to a first. Also I don't think Bellows has much trade value in general at this point so that's basically a throw in. and in terms of the first rounders, 2022 is a really good draft class too. If the Islanders added Miller they could make the playoffs again in 2023, so a guaranteed top 12 pick in 20222 is definitely more valuable than a 2023 first. I just see this package as the Islanders giving the Canucks a bunch of stuff but nothing really of significant value.
Forum: Fauteuil - DG4 mars 2022 à 10 h 33
Sujet: Questions for NYR fans
I think the biggest thing so far for them has been lack of usage and opportunity for sure. For example the Rangers PP1 is Panarin, Strome, Zibanejad, Kreider, Fox and plays the first 1:30 of every PP since the middle 2019. So the two of Kakko and Laf get basically no PP time and when they do its basically just retrieving a cleared puck and getting one rush up ice before the PP expires. So IMO that has been the biggest factor in their lack of stat production.
In terms of coaching trust, they never had it while Quinn was the coach of the Rangers. He rolled them out there almost exclusively on the 3rd and 4th lines. Gallant immediately gave Kakko a top 6 spot and Laf was 3LW but that was only because he was behind Panarin and Kreider, but Gallant recently tried him at RW before the All star break and he's been buzzing with Zib and Kreider since.
Eye test wise, Kakko has developed well so far IMO. His rookie year he was awful at even strength and got hemmed in his own zone very often. His second year the offense still wasn't there consistently but his 200 foot game was much and was awesome. This year he started slow but played well as a top 6 RW until his injury. He generates offense (although still doesn't have the point totals we'd hope for) and plays good defense.
Laf flashed at points his rookie season/ early this year but had no consistency and looked just meh at times. But it seems that was largely due to confidence and line mates because like I mentioned earlier he has looked like the player he was billed as coming out of the draft since being placed on the top line.
Ultimately though I think the PP is the biggest reason for their lack of points. If you put either of them in Strome's spot on the PP they'd have much more respectable point totals but alas they generate their offense entirely at even strength.