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Forum: Armchair-GM13 janv. 2021 à 3 h 42
Sujet: Real Roster
There's no benefit of having Neal on the taxi-squad to save cap. We're using the off-season LTIR, so we can't accrue daily cap hit for a player acquisition. At least, that's how I understand it. Not to mention, you only save the $1.075M minus the salary of the replacement player, so maybe $200k or so. Maybe. He's a good enough player to play in the bottom six and on the PP. Nobody outside Ovechkin has been a more consistent goal scorer since Neal entered the league. I'm willing to bet on his resume, until I see that his 19 goals last year was the dead cat bounce. *Note: I am specifically watching out for this.

The rest I don't disagree with. I just see someone else going down. Or maybe he pulls his back, you know... flipping pancakes at home and goes on LTIR all year. haha
Forum: Armchair-GM13 janv. 2021 à 3 h 38
Sujet: Opening Night Roster according to Stauffer
Last season that "horrible depth" (since bolstered) produced the best record among Canadian teams and second in their division points wise. They've improved.

Maybe we're looking at "really bad in his own end" differently. To me a defenseman who consistently outscores (often) elite opposition at 5v5 is a net positive player. Single mistakes in time are still just single events. At the end of the day your measure as a hockey player comes down to what you create minus what you give up. A player who has a career positive GF% is a quality player. One who's in the top 10 in 5v5 defenseman scoring over the last ten years while only having been in the league for 8/10 years is no fluke. Not to mention you can give TOR a pass for a coaching change (poor results early) and not give Barrie the benefit of the doubt at the same time. Look up the splits; his results after Babcock left are startling.

Ennis has scored at elite second line rates for years now, across multiple organizations. Not bad depth to have on your fourth line. For $1M. His versatility will come in handy.

Unlike Rattie, Kahun has likewise shown he can play up with skill in the top-6 and produce. With Towes in CHI and again with Malkin in PIT, as a recent for instance. From reading the press and blogs, guys like Geno and the fans seem to like him. I don't know a lot about him, but there are plenty of fancies that suggest there's a player. Another low risk bet, this time even cheaper at $975k for one year... and we retain his rights if it works out well. Oh, Draisaitl suggested him as a player to acquire so he's got that going for him. Chances are good he'll do well, beyond his established level of ability and relative risk.

Turris is slow and just not really not good anymore. Okay then. Agree to disagree. As I said earlier, one under performing season doesn't define a career. We'll know more about his decline or redemption this year, whether he's hit a cliff or a speed bump. He's a solid bet at 3C, and the price and term are (again) low risk bets for the upcoming season.

TOR had injuries? So did EDM. We were without core roster players for long stretches (Larsson, Klefbom, the irreplaceable Connor McDavid and others) and forced rookies (Bear, Jones, Yamamoto) into prominent positions, while integrating basically an entirely new bottom six and coaching staffs. Tough... that's pro sports. The Oilers had the best line in the NHL during 2020. That was our second line. But they were by far the worst in the division? Okay then. From a distance it would appear you've bought into a narrative instead of results/numbers.

The problems you allude to with outscoring largely stem from the cumulative effect of a disastrous December slump. We'll see how that works out going forward. Improvements in the bottom six -- really, a 35 GF% shouldn't be that hard to build on -- and consistency year over year with the bulk of the coaching staff and much of the roster will help. There's a cumulative effect of running your top two C 25 mins a game, where they know no matter how much they score the bottom-6 will just give it up. A lot of the guys we were breaking in were fringe guys last year who've graduated or will graduate this year. That goes a long way. Koskinen will be fine; he's improved each year and is still young. If Smith can keep doing what he did last year -- win more than he loses -- but in a reduced role, we'll be fine in net. VAN got worse in net. Koskinen = Markstrom so at a glance we're not giving up much compared to TOR or CGY, for instance.

And take a look around the Canadian division... hell the whole league, every team has deficiencies. And this year the Oilers have fewer. They'll improve. Again. So, tell me again about how TOR isn't flawed and how they'll get over the top. Provided, of course, they finally win a playoff round. Just like CGY, TOR is a one and done team.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2021 à 21 h 36
Sujet: Opening Night Roster according to Stauffer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Highly optimistic</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>They may not make the playoffs. They did nothing but shuffle the deck chairs</div></div>


Optimistic? Not make the playoffs?

They had the highest points and points % of any Canadian team last year. Then went out and improved the team by adding a bonafide 3C, a top-10 RD and some depth including one of the top players in Europe from last year.

Oh, and two of the last three MVP and Art Ross winners who are <strong><em>just entering</em></strong> their primes. Draisaitl is the most criminally underrated player in the entire League.

People like to **** on Koskinen, who had a SV% 0.01 less than Markstrom last year and is improving year over year since he entered the league full time. His adjusted stats were top-7 in the league according to Kevin Woodley. Also highly over looked.

You're going to be surprised, methinks.

*EDIT

I went and looked, just to confirm my intuition. Tyson Barrie is the 9th highest scoring defenseman at 5v5 over the last 10 years. Tyson Barrie entered the league eight seasons ago. That's good enough scoring for 131 overall in the league during that span. He's 2 points behind Alex Goligoski for 8th place... in 197 fewer games.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2021 à 21 h 28
Sujet: Real Roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DONTGIVEAPUCK13</b></div><div>Also said it's for cap reasons. Today's roster announcement always them to have a good roster against Vancouver tomorrow and maximize LTIR pool. After tomorrow, I believe Khaira will be dropped down to taxi and they sign shore (cap savings). Bouchard and McCloud will go to Bakersfield will Haas moving to Taxi as well.</div></div>

I figure it's more likely McLeod replaces JJ and they keep Shore around on his PTO until they need him. Or maybe they do sign Shore after tomorrow. But either way guys like Bouchard, McLeod and Benson will stick around as long as possible. There won't be AHL games until late in the month at the earliest. No sense sending them sit around in a Covid hotspot until they need to -- there isn't even any ice in Bakersfield right now so they wouldn't be tuning up at all.

One thing to keep in mind is JJ has cleared waivers so he can go up and down for 30 days without having to be waived again. That's some baked in roster flexibility. Could use it to give the kids some reps, or light a fire under JJ's ass (consistency of play), or even for a different look (speed vs size/physicality) against different opponents.

And I think Haas is too flexible to send down for now. He draws penalties, skates well, and does fine on either side of the puck, and could play C or RW. Was a plus PK'er in Switzerland so he's versatile enough to keep around. Doesn't cost much. Doesn't make sense to waive one of two right-shot C on the roster.


<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zmach</b></div><div>They need to go over the cap by as much as possible for a day. Klefbom then gets placed on LTIR they will then free up about 3.8 million of cap. The cap doesn’t actually work like capfriendly you need to go over and how much you go over is your cap relief upto the contract amount of the player or you become compliant which isnt happening. Then Bouchard, Neal, and JJ go on taxi squad haas goes on scratch and shore is signed.</div></div>

Yes, the cap relief is the available roster space minus the injured player's cap hit.

I don't see Neal going on the taxi squad any time soon. There's no need, and he's a useful veteran. His play last year suffered after he broke his toe or foot. Still managed 19 goals. Not half bad, really.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2021 à 19 h 3
Sujet: Cant handle the Yandle
I'll bite, as it's a creative way of ridding problem contracts from both sides. Both of which, IMO, were regrettable the day they were signed.

EDM has enough depth at LD to not require Yandle. They don't have enough depth at LW, especially so with veterans who can still score (19 goals while injured about half the year is no slouch) and move up and down the line up. So there's no way they do it, even with the 50% retention.

Jones is ready to replace Klefbom if he does retire (or get traded, or selected by SEA). Lagesson was ready for 3LD last year, he'll be a good fill in this year. Likely that one of he or Koekkoek fill that role next year while creating competition for the likes of Samorukov or Broberg.

On the FLA side, Viola has been ruthless about trying to reduce expenses. There's no way he takes on money to see a contract he dislikes sail on. Draft picks and prospects, sure. But not money.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. 2021 à 18 h 48
Sujet: Opening Night Roster according to Stauffer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>I would wager you will not find any Av or Leaf fans who will confirm this. He was given 3rd pair responsibilities in TO because he is terrible defensively. That was what all Av fan said when he was traded.</div></div>

I'll defer to the coaching deployment and his stats over the opinions of fans. You've seen some of the trades proposed around here by those fans, right?

http://puckiq.com/players/8475197

Typcial deployment vs elites ~30% over his career and he wins his 5v5 minutes aside from a historically bad season in COL and half a year in TOR when he didn't see eye to eye with Babcock (surprise surprise). In TOR if you look up his splits before and after the coaching change, you'll see his deployment reverted to the norm under O'Keefe.

Barrie is an underrated player 5v5.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Edmonton as a whole is really poor defensively. It's going to be bad at 5v5</div></div>

I'm going to infer you don't watch a lot of the Oilers play. They've made strides on the back end and in the bottom six. <a href="/users/Zmach" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Zmach</a> basically covered it.