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Armchair-GM
12 juill. 2022 à 1 h 3
Sujet:
Spitballling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>No, it's a nothing offer. Dubois can't walk for nothing unless the Jets let him, which won't happen. The standard rental price of a first and his prospect at the TDL in 2 years is better than this, so there is no incentive for Winnipeg to trade him nite fir a Novak package.
Fiala is a bad example, Minnesota was forced to trade him and had no leverage. Right now Winnipeg has all the leverage, so they aren't even slightly comparable.
Bottom line the trade doesn't make the Jets better now or in the future, so there isn't any chance the Jets look at it.</div></div>
To say Winnipeg has all the leverage just isn't true. This all comes down to negotiations with Dubois and whether or not he decided to file for arbitration for 2 years and LITERALLY walk for nothing after his years have been served. He has 2 years left on his RFA and the entire point I'm making is that there are rumors he only signs long term with Montreal because that's where he wants to be. No team is trading for a kid who will not stay with their team long term lmao. Not to mention his value probably, maybe not, but probably has taken a hit as a result of his past antics with CBJ and WPG. To say that offer doesn't make the team better in the future is also just not true so long as Dubois does not stick around. Harris is a decent prospect, perhaps you could improve the trade by replacing him with someone slightly more enticing, a 2024 first rounder from a team who just finished last in the NHL, and a decent centerman who can serve as a second line replacement in the short term for the guy you are losing at a cheaper cost with some of the best faceoff numbers in the league. We will just have to agree to disagree I suppose. As far as the Fiala comparison, I only bring him up as he is an example of an RFA being dealt most recently. Sure it isn't the best comparison I admit but the reasoning is to get a rough idea of potential return.
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Armchair-GM
12 juill. 2022 à 0 h 0
Sujet:
Spitballling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bsellar</b></div><div>He's french, everyone will fantasize</div></div>
I'm a California kid who loves the Canadiens. I can promise you that the "hes french" shtick isn't why he's in this ACGM. The "he must be a Quebec kid and speak french" logic in building a roster is something I feel for sure can ruin the team and is definitely frustrating.
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Armchair-GM
11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 56
Sujet:
Spitballling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SMH</b></div><div>They got the winger they needed and they got the big center they needed, if dach doesn't work out by the time he's 23 PLD will be a free agent and can come for 'free'</div></div>
I agree but these moves are an indicator of what they want this team to become in the future. Obviously PLD could be a long shot or may never happen, not saying it will. My point is if this kid is literally saying he will not sign anywhere long term not named Montreal and he fits the exact identity this team is trying to build around, a move to acquire him is a no brainer. Additionally, Dach is not a proven commodity in the way Dubois is and neither is Slafkovsky even though I love the pick and am excited for his future. Either way these posts are just for fun man! Am just trying to build a semi-realistic roster to entertain myself!
As far as the waiting for free agency instead. Thats for sure a possibility. It's also a possibility that Hughes and Gorton wouldnt want to wait 2 years for that to happen.
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Armchair-GM
11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 50
Sujet:
Spitballling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>The Jets have no incentive to give Dubois away for nothing.</div></div>
I wouldn't say that offer is nothing by a long shot. Think of the return for Fiala. Obviously he is not a 6 ft plus cente, but he was an RFA who is potentially a 40 goal scorer getting a return of a solid D prospect and a late first in a potentially weaker draft. Getting a return of a decent NHLer in Dvorak to fill the center role, a solid prospect offensive defenseman in Harris, and a first round pick from a rebuilding team is hardly "nothing". That return may be more enticing for a team who potentially he walks from at UFA anyway.
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Armchair-GM
11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 45
Sujet:
Spitballling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SMH</b></div><div>Can we effin STOP with the effin PLD trades FFS</div></div>
It's not that serious man. PLD fits the identity of what Hughes and Gorton want for the team. It's not often you have a skilled, big, young center who you KNOW wants to play for your team. If they could snag him you obviously should. My gripe with acquiring him would come down to the contract. Anything above 7 I would say to stay away. As far as "can we stop with X trades". No, they will never stop so long as there aren't rumors of alternatives and no other moves cancelling the possibility of it happening are made. Not worth getting frustrated over others fake trades on a website made for people who obviously aren't the real GM of your favorite team lol.
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Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 17 h 37
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>I could see Yzerman taking calls on him, like every gm should do about every player in my opinion, but I don't think he's being shopped unless he has other deals in place, like possibly a Petry trade.
I've made deals like Hronek to Dallas to replace Klingberg for Stankoven and a couple of seconds in return and that seemed to be good with most of them. I also added Petry to Detroit but only paid a third and Habs fans weren't to happy but really he's older and has big cap hit. Also Habs are actually in a difficult cap situation right now although some fans seem to not realize it.</div></div>
Habs definitely are in an interesting position. It really will come down to whether or not Price retires this offseason. 10 mil off the books before the FA period will make the world's difference. The continuation of that uncertainty will prevent Hughes from really making any large moves this offseason though. Hopefully we get answers soon! (my previous comment did not load so I basically retyped lol my b)
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Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 17 h 34
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>I could see Yzerman taking calls on him, like every gm should do about every player in my opinion, but I don't think he's being shopped unless he has other deals in place, like possibly a Petry trade.
I've made deals like Hronek to Dallas to replace Klingberg for Stankoven and a couple of seconds in return and that seemed to be good with most of them. I also added Petry to Detroit but only paid a third and Habs fans weren't to happy but really he's older and has big cap hit. Also Habs are actually in a difficult cap situation right now although some fans seem to not realize it.</div></div>
Yep. Habs are in an interesting limbo right now with the uncertainty of Price returning. Losing that 10 mil means a whole lot to management. If Price remains in the lineup you can bet barely any moves are made in FA or in the offseason in general IMO
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 17 h 31
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>That is probably the minimum CHI would take for Strome. If things come down to the wire, and they really want to move him, I guess I'd be ok with it. Better than letting him walk. But I think he is worth a substantial amount more than that and would probably better serve CHI on the roster and/or maybe raising his value for a TDL trade.</div></div>
I suppose it purely depends on if Chicago see's themselves walking away from his QO. If that's the case, better to get something for him than to lose him for nothing. Would not shock me to find out other teams offer more than a second for his rights though regardless.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 17 h 29
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>I have not seen Detroit fans trading away Hronek. If there are some they are likely ridiculous AGMs and not from rationale people. I've made a few Hronek trades myself but that's only to either get a nhl ready centre or good prospect that will fill that hole in the future. Hronek is very valuable to Detroit since we have no one to fill that hole left by him. Hronek is an offensive guy that has some deficiencies in his own end but he is still quite young and has room to improve. If I remember correctly he was Detroit's leading scorer two seasons ago. On terms of your trade proposed it would likely have the second going the other way just based on age, contract and potential. That said Petry doesn't fit our timeline, would he be a nice piece for sure if the price was right, but likely he goes to a different team that values him more. It makes more sense to play the younger players we have now.
Also good on you for not overreacting to the Detroit fans ripping on you. We see dozens of these a day and Habs fans usually get absolutely ridiculous in response, so much respect to you for that.</div></div>
Completely understand. I don't mind passionate fans! Montreal probably has the worst of them ;). I only do these to spark discussion and learn more about other team's players.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 17 h 27
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>I'm not talking about you per say. It's each day on CFACGM where Petry Mania runs wild on here. Why is Detroit his only option?
As for Hronek, I don't believe Yzerman is actively shopping him. But like Zadina, I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded at some point. Seider quickly took over the #1 Defenseman role and Hronek seemed lost last season.
He's overrated by some Red Wings fans but he's underrated too. He's somewhat of an enigma. Some games he's very good. Other games he's very bad. But overall he's still a top 4 Defenseman and Yzerman isn't going to just give him away for nothing.
His value is all over the place really. No matter what I say it is 100 people will disagree.</div></div>
Thanks for the informational response. Completely understand that viewpoint on Hronek, it's almost identical to Habs fans perspective on Petry but his term and age sets him apart. Seems there is a lot of interest from GM's for bigger RHD currently since apparently Tyler Myers is getting attention now. Who knows what that would mean for guys like Petry or Hronek but if I had to guess based on Myers rumors they'd most likely fetch more than people may think on the current market. Only time will tell!
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Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 17 h 14
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>The only Petry to Detroit trades coming from Red Wings fans that I've seen are of the mocking/sarcastic variety.</div></div>
Yeah, forget about Petry to Detroit. I'm only asking for the value of Hronek. This was not made for the purpose of mockery or sarcasm.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 17 h 9
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>Other teams fans love telling us that all our players have no value yet they obsess about acquiring them for basically nothing.. Bertuzzi. Larkin. Hronek. Nedeljkovic. Suter. Zadina.</div></div>
I think you've misunderstood me. The ACGM's that I have seen are coming from Detroit fans themselves. This is why I'm curious on his current value.
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Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 17 h 8
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>I assume they draft Wright and try to ice a competitive team and not rebuild so petry would be good for that</div></div>
I agree to an extent. Definitely draft Wright and as far as Petry goes it really just depends on if he reconciles being in Canada again the next season or 3. Even if he is dealt, Hughes has already stated that he would have to be replaced by a veteran D to fill his role. That being the case, the only logical Petry trade for MTL would to get some type of asset back to help the rebuild, otherwise just keep him.
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Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 16 h 55
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>We're surely not trading Filip Hronek for Jeff Freaking Petry that's for sure. If he deal Hronek it will be for an upgrade at 2C or for a top 4 LD not for Petry.</div></div>
Gotcha, I've just seen many trades involving Hronek departing for only a pick or 2 on this site for the last few days so was curious on what you guys expect for a return. Is he on the outs for the team or are fans just underselling him and being dramatic?
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Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 16 h 53
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zadinaveleno</b></div><div>NO MORE PETRY TO DETROIT TRADES</div></div>
Lmao I understand the frustration guys. This is ACGM. A million people post fake trades on here a day. If there's even slight rumors about a player going to a team it is safe to say we can expect an exponential amount of X player to Y team to be on here. It's not that serious! Nobody knows where this guy will go at the end of the day and we don't have to pretend like these simulation trades have any merit or are really happening lol.
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Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 16 h 46
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Ill say it again I like petry and if he had 1 or even 2 years left I'd do a deal but 3 for that cap at his age is a lot. He looked good at the end of the season why even move him?</div></div>
It's very possible they don't, especially with his what he said during his end of the season press conference. Despite that it was pretty clear before hand he wanted out of Montreal to be closer to his family in the states. It really just depends where he stands with the team and if management decides it's not worth it to deal him.
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Armchair-GM
1 juin 2022 à 16 h 43
Sujet:
Montreal Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PredsWingsFan</b></div><div>Detroit declines. currently in long term mode. If we were contending for a playoff spot, this would be something to think on. But right now, age plays a huge role in decision making</div></div>
Interesting. Been seeing a lot of trades made on here to basically get rid of Hronek from Detroit fans. Mind explaining to me the general opinion on him from Detroit fans perspective at the moment?
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Armchair-GM
2 mai 2022 à 1 h 50
Sujet:
If Price Retires
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sam_Qc</b></div><div>I like the idea of getting Nicolas Roy but Riley Kidney is really good in the Q. I'd do it if you switch Kidney with Mysak tho. The fact that we are probably going into a rebuild makes the signing of Perron not worth it. I could see Letang signing with us only if Petry is leaving.</div></div>
I suppose I am just unsure really of what Vegas's asking price would be for Roy, could be lower or could be higher. Kidney has had a great season in the Q right but so did Roy for his time there. If the price for a young, 6'4" 200 pound center is Kidney and a second I personally wouldn't refuse it. These types of guys are very important for the depth of contending teams.
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Armchair-GM
2 mai 2022 à 1 h 43
Sujet:
If Price Retires
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>IF Price retires we don't chase Letang or Perron. Those are guys you chase if you plan on competing for the next 2-3 years not if you are starting a rebuild.</div></div>
I completely agree about Perron in terms of time-frame. I just find Suzuki and Caufield DEFINITELY need an upgrade for their wing and Perron fits that mold to me. Given his previous interest in the team before signing with St. Louis last time around, I wouldn't be surprised to see an offer thrown at him as a cheaper option to fill in the gaps. As far as Petry goes I have no idea at this point where they stand with him. The presser he gave gives me the impression he wants to stay but obviously we don't really know where he or management stands. All I know is that Letang is the exact type of puck-moving defensemen they need and is the only player of that caliber in UFA for the next 3-4 years that I find Montreal may have a reasonable shot at signing. Those types of players completely change your team. Having a Letang on our powerplay this year most likely would have won us many more games. If you really want guys like Caufield to really thrive on the PP, you need that point quarterback.
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Armchair-GM
30 avr. 2022 à 22 h 58
Sujet:
If Price Retires
I agree but a young massive center is not something you find commonly around the league up for grabs. Winning teams have big guys that can play, especially down the depth chart. I really like what I am seeing out of Kidney but Roy feels like the type of player Montreal would need moving forward. The second might be an attractive piece for Vegas since they don't have their first this year as well. Roy also makes Dvorak potentially expendable down the road if Wright turns out to be the guy.
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Armchair-GM
7 févr. 2022 à 23 h 9
Sujet:
What Id Love to See 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>Not giving a 2nd for Lehk let alone a 1st. Waste of a 1st to me. He isn’t that good.</div></div>
I'm sure you'd be surprised what contending teams will be willing to pay for a Lehkonen type player. Plays an incredible defensive game, is an exceptional depth player on a winning team, heart player, etc. Regardless, if teams don't like that price I would be more than happy to keep him a hab, I just feel we will see him dealt whether it's to NY or another top team in search for winger depth.
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Armchair-GM
7 févr. 2022 à 22 h 39
Sujet:
What Id Love to See 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Stars decline. Bourque isn't available for trades with a major risk behind them.</div></div>
Fair enough. I dont disagree there is risk behind Petry. I do feel he is being misunderstood by many people on here and not given a fair reading. Any team in the NHL would have loved Petry on their roster less than year ago, especially for just a 1st round pick at that.. The nightmare season in MTL has certainly done it's damage to how people percieve him lol but I predict GM's will take things into consideration when determining his value. Either way it seems we'll most likely see what he returns by the deadline or draft.
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Armchair-GM
7 févr. 2022 à 22 h 35
Sujet:
What Id Love to See 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Every single one of these trades other than the Armia and Byron ones (I think that they'll bring you SOMETHING) overstates the value of the Montreal players involved, and you should have to add to each one. In particular, four years of soon-to-be-26-years-old Connor Garland is worth a LOT more to Vancouver than one year of soon-to-be-27-year-old Jonathan Drouin, and neither Norlinder nor the future second make up for the difference.</div></div>
Right. It makes sense that non-hab fans hold this opinion while clearly those who watch the team overvalue them, some more than others. I don't agree that these particular trades overvalue Montreal's players with the exception of maybe the Garland trade, which I did explain my reasoning in the description. Will be interesting to see where these guys end up and what their return will be regardless!
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Armchair-GM
7 févr. 2022 à 22 h 30
Sujet:
What Id Love to See 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>Allen might net you a second IF the Avs were desperate and hadn't managed to re-sign Kuemper & Francouz at that point. Otherwise it's an easy pass.</div></div>
I can see that. Most of these trades to be fair are what I'd like to see or am predicting to see as a return, so Allen to the Avs in particular is more so just a representation of what I believe he may fetch ultimately. Wouldn't necessarily have to go to Colorado.
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Armchair-GM
2 sept. 2021 à 2 h 52
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Center Depth and an Offfensive D
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>lilfimpen</b></div><div>Why does a rebuilding team take Drouin. Pass. I dont see an elite prospect here.</div></div>
No, what you see is 2 solid prospects, a 1st, a 2nd, and a definite 2nd/3rd line roster player for a center that's rumored to want out of your city. Hertl is a great player and valuable asset but you cant be unreasonable with the return.
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