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Banman73

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Forum: Armchair-GM8 juill. 2020 à 19 h 52
Sujet: RNH to Colorado - Who Adds Or Is It DOA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Banman73</b></div><div>The only reason I feel it's an easy pass is because we are so weak on forward depth already. This deal hurts us upfront and we trade one d prospect for another. I'm not seeing how this makes us a better team. Neither of those prospects will play for us within the next two years and losing Nuge for Compher hurts us. I think we play out the year...Russell comes of the books next year and we don't lose Nuge. Edmonton d depth is now our strength. Larsson also comes off the book...I think your possibly right that they trade Nurse or maybe they trade Larsson this summer.</div></div>

That's fair about being weak on forward. I understand that Compher, while a nice player, is far from a perfect substitute for RNH and that it may be preferable to wait on cap space rather than paying for it in the trade market now. I do think you get a pretty significant upgrade in the D prospect area. Not only is Byram considered a better prospect by a good margin, but he may very well play in the NHL next year, (Broberg is probably two years or so away like you say). That helps quite a bit, especially in the flat cap environment. IMO, any team that has space will be able to get some good deals on free agents, trades, etc., as most of the league will be struggling. The space could be more valuable than ever.

All that said, I can see why Edmonton would say no to this. RNH is not an easy piece to part with.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 sept. 2019 à 8 h 25
Sujet: Laine Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Vrana was the breakout star who led an awful team to a surprise silver medal at the WJHC, becoming a first round pick. Then he was the breakout rookie offensive sensation who put Washington over the edge for a Stanley Cup.

Laine played on a great WJHC line with the MVP of the tournament, and some guy who's gonna be Montreal's #1C for a long time.

I honestly am using even strength points because Orlov and Vrana don't get power play time in Washington. Vrana is more valuable to the Caps this year than Laine, straight up, because he got 20 more even strength points last year. I don't think Ovechkin, even as a rookie, scored as little as Laine does at evens, but I have to go to work now, feel free to look it up and get the last word in!</div></div>

I know Laine is one dimensional, but his numbers speak for themselves , when he shoots he scores. At his age that means unlimited potential. That potential is his trade value, which is high, very high. Just like he wants his salary to be, which I think is his biggest trade negative. No one worries about teaching a 21 year old 40 goal scorer how to play defense or be more effective 5 on 5, that's video room stuff and if he gets that he is generational. What worries me with Laine is having to teach that stuff to a guy already making $10 million. Your arguement should have been centered around that, not trying to convince me Vrana and Orlov are more valuable then Laine, because that's not gonna happen this summer (maybe in a couple years, if Laine doesnt get it and Vrana gets pp time and puts up numbers).
Forum: Armchair-GM12 sept. 2019 à 7 h 44
Sujet: Laine Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eli</b></div><div>Agreed, but not for the reason most people are saying.



I just explained this:



Like, I just explained how Orlov is better at offense than Subban. That he's better on defense should be self-evident. And now you're saying Orlov isn't elite. What does that make the guy in your screenname, P.K.?</div></div>

What's me being a fan of Subban have to do with whether or not Orlov is elite? Plus you're trying to say he is better offensively, which isnt true, your only using even strength numbers because it suits your arguement. Orlov has a career high of 33 points, that's Subbans low seasons.

All in all this is just homerism. Vrana and Orlov are no where close to the value of Laine. Would Washinton have traded Ovi for Nicklas Kronwall and Jiri Hudler in 2006? Because that's basically what this trade is, and that's being very generous comparing Orlov to Kronwall and Vrana to Hudler.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 juill. 2019 à 19 h 7
Sujet: EDM Oilers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Banman73</b></div><div>I wouldn't do the Buffalo trade or the Nashville trade. Turris is overated and we need Larsson pretty bad. Nuge is to good both ways, and to trade him for an offensive minded de-man who's a defensive liability would hurt us even more... If that's possible. :(</div></div>

Agreed. He can't move Nugent-Hopkins because in order to do so he would need to receive a significant over-pay, and its unlikely that any GM who is willing to make that kind of deal will have the assets, or be willing to give up the assets, that Edmonton will need in return. As far as Larsson is concerned, he is on a team-friendly contract and is currently the best RHD and the only guy who can play the right side of the top d-pair.

Holland appears to be playing the long game. He's improved the skill and speed of the bottom six forwards, moved out Lucic's previously unmovable contract, obtained a guy who should be an improvement over three of last season's top four wingers, and he's brought in a reasonably inexpensive veteran goaltender who seemed to be getting back his game back at the end of last season. None of those moves are as splashy as transactions that have occurred elsewhere in the league, but they may well be the best moves that can be made for the Oilers at this time.

The GM doesn't have a lot of cap space to work with, and he has only three contracts to hand-out before reaching the league maximum. He knows that he has a couple of grade "A" prospects, and at least as many grade "B" prospects that are likely to improve the team defense and puck-moving as early as this coming season, and definitely by the next season. He also knows he has some grade "B" forward prospects, at least three (and probably four, after this most recent draft) of whom have the potential to be top-six forwards at the NHL level. Some of those forwards may start to provide middle-six minutes by the end of this season. He also has Puljujarvi locked as either a trade asset, or another possible future middle-to-top-six forward. Finally, he has a pretty deep pool of decent young goalies developing in the minors, and more experienced one playing in the KHL. His moves have been shrewd, and I think he has an eye on being a more competitive team now, a solid play-off team in a season, and a contender after that. The timing works reasonably well.

The best of the current prospects will need this season, and next, to truly establish themselves as NHL players. In the meantime, Brodziak, Gagner, and Manning can all come off the books before the next season, as can every one of the UFAs Holland signed this summer; there should be lots of cap space to re-sign Nurse and perhaps look at the top-end of the UFA market. he could also choose to keep Benning as a depth d-man. Other support players like Chiasson, Kris Russell, and Jujhar Khaira have contracts expiring at the end of the 21/22 season; and again there should be lots of cap space available to re-sign Nugent-Hopkins and possibly Larsson as well. By that time, players like Caleb Jones, Evan Bouchard, William Lagesson, Tyler Benson, possibly Kailer Yamamoto, Kiril Maksimov, Ilya Konovalov or Shane Starett, and Dmitri Samorukov could be NHL regulars, and there is even a chance that Ryan McLeod, Ostap Safin, Cooper Marody, and Raphael Lavoie are playing roles as well.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 juill. 2019 à 17 h 33