SalarySwishSalarySwish
Avatar

Adir4

YARRRR!!!!
Membre depuis
26 avr. 2024
Équipe favorite
Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Deuxième équipe favorite
Golden Knights de Vegas
Messages dans les forums
220
Messages par jour
3.4
Forum: Armchair-GM26 mai à 0 h 20
Sujet: If Lou Lamiorello wants to spend what he got yesterday on Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>That's not true... If you're value of the pick is pick 7... You will be less likely to trade it... Think Treliving vs Dubas, Dubas was more likely to trade away the Leafs 1st bc he thought it would be pick 32... Whereas Tre valued the pick at pick 20-25, thus valuing it as such. It's why you don't see rebuilding teams trading their 1sts often and if they do, it's for a lot.

And that's fair... But Ottawa was also just 6 points back, Dorion was obviously making a playoff push</div></div>

On March 1st, 2023, Ottawa was ranked #22 in the league.

https://www.nhl.com/standings/2023-03-01/league

Which means Ottawa held the 11th best lottery odds on a pick that ultimately ended up being #12 overall.

The pick should have been evaluated based on where it was at the time, not on what it could become under the most ideal scenario.

If a GM can't see that, he shouldn't have a job.



Also, the # of teams you need to leapfrog to clinch a playoff spot is just as important as the # of points you need to catch up to those teams.

If not more so.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai à 23 h 54
Sujet: If Lou Lamiorello wants to spend what he got yesterday on Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>There 100% was... Ottawa was 2 pts back of FLO at the time (who had the 2nd wild card spot)...

https://www.hockey-reference.com/boxscores/2023/03/1/


So cmarch's point is correct as Dorion thought, at the time of the trade, that the pick would be in the 16th-20th range, and making the 2nd in the 50-55 range...

That fact that OTT faded at the end had nothing to do with Dorion's perceived value of spending those assets</div></div>

It doesn't matter what Dorion thought the picks were worth at the time.

What matters is where the picks ultimately ended up.



Also, the wild card spots in the East were held by Pittsburgh and the Isles on March 1st, 2023.

https://www.nhl.com/standings/2023-03-01/wildcard

Ottawa had to leapfrog not just Florida, but at least 3 other teams in the East as well.

I guess that makes you incorrect as well ...
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai à 15 h 53
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals24 mai à 14 h 0
Sujet: Only way it works
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Element23VM</b></div><div>lol if I'm Calgary I take this and run

I'm not afraid of Korpisalo's salary... he's only owed 16M and he can hold Dustin Wolf's hand as Wolf translates his game to NHL. By the time the transition is complete, he'll only be owed 8, will still be back up quality, and can be traded with retained salary to go be someone else's insurance at 2*2.

You also get a guy who has shown he can 1D pretty competently in Arizona under better coaching.

If I'm Ottawa, I'm looking to trade Chabot and Norris, get some more defensively responsible players on that team, and see if they can't turn Chychrun into the player they thought they were trading for, extending him mid-season.</div></div>

That's personally what I want to do. I want to keep Chych and move on from Chabot + Norris. This season we have seen plenty times Chych was pissed off we were losing, we need to keep dudes around who aren't cool with losing.