What's so weird about Carolina 23rd?

Carolina is much better than the Isles. If the Isles didn't have Tavares, hey would roll over them like they weren't there.

Darling>Greiss
Hanafin, Faulk, Slavin, Pesce>>>>>>Boychuck, De Haan, Leddy, Hickey
TT, Rask, Skinner, Aho, Lindholm, Staal is better than your top 6 whos and Tavares

Montreal - They have the best goalie in the league. Their defense is slow and not that great but the Islanders aren't better on the blueline. At forward, Tavares gives Isles an advantage, but accept for a #1 center, Montreal has better depth

Boston - I think Krakowitz has explained this enough

Ottawa - Erik ******* Karlsson. Besides that, their defense is pretty shallow minus Chabot who is one of the best dman prospects rn. Their top 6 are pretty good as well. Average depth behind on forward like the Islanders. They also have one of the better goaltending tandems in the NHL.

Carolina - Done

Buffalo - They actually have a #1 goalie unlike some team called the Islanders. Their defense is a bit better than the Islanders and their forwards well... that's pretty obvious

RAIF -- we did an entire debate on this. I'm not revisiting it.

Also, everyone has a chance at the playoffs... even Colorado, Vancouver and Vegas so that's not saying much

The Islanders' forward group isn't great but the Canes' isn't either ... plus look how the isles actually did better than the Canes last season.

But i mean a good chance.

Oh God that's "going out on a limb call"!!!!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. THAT, my friends, is a Bruin hater!!!!!!!!

As much as I respect Philly's prospect pool, Ghost; who says he will rebound? He is good offensively but 1 dimensional D is a little suspect. Provorov I like, all around game is good. The other 3 haven't even really played much, they may be good eventually but with D, it takes time, and they don't have the time in yet. But they ARE definitely getting better (just when Giroux and Simmonds are slowing down)

Oh man I'm getting dizzy reading this

That statement is just plain WRONG!!! THAT is the Isles weakness!!!!!!!

DeHaan is EXTREMELY inexperienced for a D man (you just like saying his name.....like The Yotes!!) Seidenberg; theres a reason why the B's bought him out. He is slowing down big time and is still not as good as Chara even though he's younger!!!!! Boychuk; Another reason why B's let him go, he started very wellwhen traded to Isles, and people said "oh the Bruins missed the boat again", but then he settled into mediocrity again like he was in Boston. I like Boychuk, but he is a bottom 6 D guy

How did the Bruins make the playoffs???? Just that much better (and then some!!!!) It was the coaching change that boosted the Isles, as it did the Bruins, but difference is, the Bruins are WAY better overall.

eh, they still have a capable team. their moves in the expansion draft have been puzzling, but there is absolutely no guarantee (read: reason to believe) that Marchessaults great season hasn't been a one hit wonder. if Ekblad recovers and doesn't get concussed again, they will certainly bounce back. even without Demers (who might have become to expensive for his role, hence the trade) they have a pretty good D core. I can see a similar trade happening to Brendan Smith in the near future.
up front, they still have Barkov/Trocheck/Bjugstad and hopefully now a healthy Huberdeau, the newly acquired Dadonov and a few depth pieces. they will be dependent on the health of a few players, but they are definitely not as bad as you want them to be. I'll vote for a playoff spot.

Salty? bahaha, I don't get "salty" over someones opinion because it doesn't align with mine.

But there are other teams getting better, and the Islanders are one of them.

Garth Snow said that he traded Hamonic partly because of their good defence.

Riiiiight, had nothing to do with Hamonic's trade request earlier in the year.

And Garth Snow is always right about everything. That's like saying all Muslims are terrorists because Donald Trump said so.

Predictions

1. Edmonton - They are a great young team, was inexperienced last year, I expect them to make a push for the division and for the presidents trophy as well.
2. Tampa Bay - If they can stay healthy this is a scary team to play against. Biggest question mark is the goaltending for them.
3. Nashville - Best D-man core in the league, yes Ellis is out for half the year but I still think they take the Central division, depends on how well Rinne can play during the season.
4. Pittsburgh - Back to Back champs. They are a good team. Lost a few key players but should be able to stay in the top 5. Crosby and Malkin.
5. Washington - Lost a few players but they shouldn't fall off quite as much as we expect them too. Still a top 5, cup contending team.
6. Chicago - Patrick Kane. One of the best forwards in the game, he will push this team into the playoffs.
7. Anaheim - They will fall behind at the beginning of the season but will make a hard push. Hard to win games without Lindholm and Kesler to start the season.
8. Columbus - This is their chance to prove last year was not a fluke and they can compete with everyone in the Metro. Not sold completely but they should be a top 10 team in the league.
9. Minnesota - BB coached team. They do great in the regular season and then choke it away in the playoffs. They are a playoff team but not a cup contender
10. Calgary - They have a solid defense. The goaltending is the question here. They could do some damage if Smith can hold his own.
11. St. Louis - They got a little better during the offseason. Everyone will be better and they will have Fabbri back. Will make the playoffs but might be a wild card
12. Dallas - Added more fire power, a goalie, and a d-man. This team could be dangerous all season and playoffs. Could make a cup run.
13. Boston - Strong forward group, defense was improved during the off-season. Should be 2nd in the Atlantic with ease.
14. Toronto - Good young team. If they stay healthy, they should be able to make the playoffs. Still a young team and needs a number 1 d-man.
15. Ottawa - Erik Karlsson. If Anderson plays well he and Karlsson can help push the Sens to a playoff berth
16. Rangers - Lundqvist is older, and he is starting to show. Still a top 10 goalie. They are a bubble team for me.
17. Philly - They improved the team as whole. Nolan Patrick will be a great addition and the young guys on the back end. Elliott Should help them. Another bubble playoff team.
18. San Jose - Lost a depth d-man and a top 6 forward. They will be good but it will be hard for them to make the playoff spot without replacing them.
19. Montreal - No number 1 center, and Price can't carry them into the playoffs like before. They miss the playoffs
20. Carolina - Darling won't meet their expectations. They will need a 1A and 1B tandem to make the playoffs for the following year
21. Winnipeg - They have the most lethal line in the NHL. Though the defense and Goalie are questionable and it doesn't help the division they are in as well.
22. Arizona - I think this is the sleeper team. I don't have them in the playoffs but I would not be surprised to see them sneak in.
23. Buffalo - They will be a little better. Defense is a little suspect. They will be better in a few years
24. New Jersey - Number 1 pick in the draft. The team will be better but still not a playoff team
25. LA - They did not improve in the off-season and they are still slow. Time to rebuild and get younger.
26. Florida - They've have a lot of new faces. Let a 30 goal scorer go to expansion. Management has totally turned this team upside down.
27. Islanders - Other teams in the Metro got better. They did not. Not much of a supporting cast behind JT. Defense is suspect and they have no true number 1 goalie.
28. Vancouver - No number 1 goalie, defense is decent. Aging forwards, with some youth in the lineup. Might surprise some people, I expect them to finish in the bottom 5.
29. Vegas - Could be a little better than what it is expected. Should be exciting to follow how well the team might perform
30. Detroit - They are in a full rebuild, time to sell the players that have value and stock up on draft picks
31. Colorado - Duchene will get traded by the deadline and they will be on full tank mode by then and hope to get that number 1 pick.

I think spots 15- 22 will all be within 10 points of each other. The final wild card spot in both conferences will be up for grabs until the last game of the season.

Where are they getting better?

Well of course Garth is going to say that. He is showing confidence in young guys, but it takes time for young guys to develop. It won't be right away, like I mean this year!!