Leafs wouldn't make either trade IMO

You may not know these prospects but these are very talented. Necas looks like a versatile C/W with as much skill or just below willy/Marner. He's a slight build but can play with men already. Chytil is the same with a touch less skill but in a bigger pakage. I really like these two players and imo seem like locks for at least solid contributing forwards with skill.

But regardless of what they turn out to be. If we already had those prospects, would you trade them for boz and jvr to make a run and possibly resign the vets. Or given our cap constraints LT would you just develop these 2 Czech prospects into impact players and possibly have them making an impact in 2 years for 3 cheap years?

A move like this could set this team up for a potential cup run while weakening the team for one year. It's not like they don't have players ready to play. And those like Lievo sosh kappy get another year of development in the process

It's not that crazy of an idea. It's rather a simple one. LT core is young. Strategically trade vets to restock with the right prospects. Build a winner at the right time that can sustain a larger window for success. When our young players are making loads of money, how do you feed support. FAs cost to much and rarely sustain impact. Trading future assets is also costly. Cycling the right vets for the right prospects or picks would logically seem like the optimal plan.

Matty you're not wrong about either prospect but I believe Leafs have moved into next phase and are not looking to add guys likely 2 full years out! These might be the nucleus of a deal at the deadline should something go wrong this year! I see a possible JVR deal to Carolina but would likely have to start with Hanif in. They have multi LD ready in minors. Not likely to move Bozak!

If Leafs rookies had not broken through the sound barrier last year, this type of trade would be a lot more palatable, to continue stocking good prospects as part of a long-term rebuild.
I agree with you about needing a good pipeline to help manage the cap once the rooks get their big pay days.
I also like that your idea is one of the first that starts to show more realistic trade values for Bozie and JVR.

The real problem is that the Canes (and others) are likely fighting us for a playoff spot this year and flipping JVR and Bozie could easily tilt that fight.

Too many trades on this site....go any "trade value" instead of "team value". As Billius suggested the Leafs are in a battle to make the playoffs, do well in the playoffs. Bozak and JVR are needed for that reason. It gives the younger core playoff run or playoff run experience and toughness. Didn't the Leaf trade for Boyle last TDL, so the young guys could experience a playoff run?
These endless trades of "trading for the future" or trading for guys "before they walk" is generally....futile.

You are correct in that the leafs would not likely trade current players for unknowns that can't help now. I dont think that just because the kids can play and we have a decent team that the plan is changed. The likelyhood of JVR being the difference between going deep or not making it is probably slim. And they signed Marleau and have lots of wing depth ready to prove themselves.

Pal. I agree that most GMs think too short term when icing teams. Most don't have the foresight to make these LT moves while likely weakening there team on paper ST. But trading jvr and Bozak isn't exactly leaving gaping holes either. In fact there are players who likely will not get a chance to prove themselves because of them. moving older players for younger players is how you sustain success. It's possible the leafs trade jvr and or Bozak and still make the playoffs. Maybe they get some more ice time for younger players and actually may be just as good.

And yes the leafs traded for Boyle because smith was the 4C and that's just embarrassing. Some times you pick up a vet. Some times you trade em. This time, we should move at least jvr is a deal like this was possible.

All fair points. I'd sacrifice a greater chance at making the playoffs for a very good young forward. If jvr and Bozak were that important to the team then they would be resigned. I don't think they will be.

Despite the possibility that JVR and Bozak will have not been resigned, it doesn't take away the fact that JVR and Bozak are needed this year to make the Leafs better. Your argument seems to be unjustified. Are you saying Tavares isn't important to the Islanders just because he hasn't been resigned for 2018? C'mon.

palhal I need your expert advice in the GM Game ASAP. As for this team: Bozak is one of our few faceoff winners, doubt this happens.

I'll be there so. Regarding the Bozak and JVRs upcoming UFAs. Only in Leaf Land or fans so paranoid about losing guys as UFAs when they are needed to make the team better. And this fantasy about allowing young guys to take their place. Well, I can't imagaein who they are this year.....cause there aren't any. Leaf are very weak at centre....their in NO ONE in the AHL to step up, and who do you replace JVR'a 30 goals this year.