My point is he could have had MUCH more production, but he was always the guy before the point was given out. This was his first bad year of his career in terms of his defensive game, and his first regresion in PPG pace since he was a Canadien. Guys a fine 3C

you can say the same everyone, but youre moving those goal posts because it firts your kk narrative. he stinks. give it up.

How am I moving the goalposts? He's a fine 3C. Give it up. He's (usually) very strong defensively, he always creates a ton, he's 23 year old Finnish Jordan Staal.

Oh my god you're serious. Kotkaniemi is 10000% an NHL player. Having watched him for 6 years now, he's probably best suited to being a 3C with heavy defensive minutes. He creates a lot, but he doesn't have the shot to finish it. When he played with semi-decent linemates, he put up ELITE defensive numbers (Despite neither Svechnikov nor Necas being good defensively) and 40 points. He also lead the league in "tertiary assists" which is the pass before the points are awarded. He's 1000% NHL caliber, and saying otherwise is a joke. You can argue right now he's not got much value, and that's fair. But this is WAY too far

he's probably best suited to being a 3C with heavy defensive minutes.

he put up ELITE defensive numbers