Get the wingers out to make space for Coranato and Pelletier

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Créé par: DopeGM

Équipe: 2024-25 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2024

Publié: 6 mai 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I was thinking about how important developing Pelletier and Coronato in the right slots is and I came to realize that Kuzmenko and Mang have to go at any cost. Which is a bit painful but I’d rather start the season with the two young guys properly slotted.

We need one young Dman to be ready and develop in a rebuilding season. I think that player is Poirier. Doubtful we draft or trade for a better one than him. I’m hopeful they do something like this Maatta deal rather than try to bring in a legit top 4 vet dman… because I want one year of tank please!!

Looks like a full roster without a player returned in the Markstrom deal. Which isn’t Conroy’s style. So I guess I’m hoping for a Dman in the return. The top 9 looks full to me and this is with two (miracle/unlikely) winger deals

Added the Markstrom / Maatta type deal. I dislike pushing Poirier out of the lineup (or the Dman besides Poirier that wins the spot in camp). But I do like that Maatta could return a third at the deadline. Detroit won’t want to add to their cap so they will probably require that we take on one or two Dmen.

I don’t love that adding Berggren pushes Coranato out of the top six.

This team needs two roster cuts. One of Pachal or Okoochook on the waiver wire if everyone is healthy.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Pelletier, Jakob	2	1 000 000 $
Solovyov, Ilya	2	800 000 $
Wolf, Dustin	2	1 800 000 $
Berggren, Jonatan	1	850 000 $
Klapka, Adam	1	850 000 $
Kuznetsov, Yan	1	850 000 $
Okhotiuk, Nikita	1	850 000 $
Schwindt, Cole	1	850 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Kylington, Oliver		4	4 250 000 $
Greer, AJ		2	800 000 $

Transactions

CGY

Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)

Détails additionnels:

Another homer deal I know I know. I could see Tree doing this one though.

TOR

Mangiapane, Andrew (2 900 000 $ retained)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)

CGY

Berggren, Jonatan [Droits de RFA]
Holl, Justin
Husso, Ville
Määttä, Olli
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)

DET

CGY

Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MIN)

MIN

Hanley, Joel
Kuzmenko, Andrei (2 700 000 $ retained)
Miromanov, Daniil
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VGK)

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Andrew Mangiapane: 2 900 000 $ (50%)
Andrei Kuzmenko: 2 700 000 $ (49.09%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
25	87 500 000 $	76 611 666 $	0 $	1 062 500 $	10 888 334 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Huberdeau, Jonathan 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 7	Zary, Connor 863 333 $863 333 $ (212 500 $$212K) AG, C RFA - 1	Sharangovich, Yegor 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1
Pospisil, Martin 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD RFA - 2	Kadri, Nazem 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ C NMC UFA - 5	Berggren, Jonatan 850 000 $850 000 $ AD, AG RFA
Pelletier, Jakob 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG RFA	Backlund, Mikael 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 2	Coleman, Blake 4 900 000 $4 900 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Hunt, Dryden 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Rooney, Kevin 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ C UFA - 1	Coronato, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD RFA - 1
	Schwindt, Cole 850 000 $850 000 $ AD, C RFA	Greer, AJ 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, AG UFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Kylington, Oliver 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA	Weegar, MacKenzie 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 7	Wolf, Dustin 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G RFA
Määttä, Olli 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Vladar, Daniel 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ G UFA - 1
Poirier, Jérémie 823 333 $823 333 $ DG RFA - 1	Holl, Justin 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Husso, Ville 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Okhotiuk, Nikita 850 000 $850 000 $ DG RFA	Pachal, Brayden 775 000 $775 000 $ DD RFA - 1

6 mai à 18 h 40

Shaun80

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Gotta figure out what to do with schwindt too, he's no longer waiver exempt next season either.

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6 mai à 18 h 48

Byrr

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Mangiapane deal doesn't seem like that much of a homer deal. Leafs are moving back 17 spots in 2024 for another 2nd and a winger with a very competitive salary after retention. I'd do that if I was the Leafs and had interest in Mangiapane.

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6 mai à 21 h 18

KingofRnR

TrevorA

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That Mangiapane deal favours the Leafs Big Time

No Thanks to this. Pelletier & Coronato need to earn those spots by unseating those guys, not just giving them to them

Make a Pelletier-???/Zary/Pospisil/Schwindt-Coronato 4th Line if you want, but they still gotta prove themselves before getting Top-9 roles

Would be interesting to have a Scoring 4th Line with Greer, Hunt, Rooney, Duehr or Klapka as the 2 Scratches when we need more Muscle and Physicality

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7 mai à 9 h 38

DopeGM

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Quoting: Byrr

I could see a deal around Mang half retained and maybe some defensive depth for pick swaps. We know Tree is willing to move down if the math says he is adding pick equity value.

The two seconds for the late first is probably net positive (I haven’t looked at that pick equity chart in awhile!)

So Mang is essentially free in that deal. From Calgary’s perspective, I would rather hunt down players we really like in the late first than gamble on the second rounders but that’s moreso personal preference.

7 mai à 10 h 13

DopeGM

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Quoting: Shaun80

Gotta figure out what to do with schwindt too, he's no longer waiver exempt next season either.

I added Schwindt. Classic tweener though hey

7 mai à 10 h 26

Bast

First round bust

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First of all Kuzmenko has value, Mangiapane has value. You can get more for them with retention.

Mangiapane at 50% retention is probably worth a 2nd, so that first deal doesn't make much sense unless the Flames absolutely love a player available @23.

I think the Flames are taking on too much deadweight with the Markstrom deal, even though the 1st is nice.

I don't love moving Miromanov, because I think he has more potential than Poirier to become a top 4D in the league.

I also think that Kuzmenko will be the better(higher skilled) winger than either Pelletier(Mangiapane is his ceiling IMO), or Coronato(I see him becoming similar to Toffoli). I would want to see more of him, and potentially resign him, or trade him at the TD after he improves his value. Again, I could see the MIN deal going through only if the Flames absolutely love a player @13.

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