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Créé par: goodjobbjs
Équipe: 2023-24 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 21 avr. 2024
Publié: 21 avr. 2024
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I would like to see the Jackets make a big trade this offseason. There are not enough top 6 spots for the amount of high end picks/prospects/young players in the org. We're going to see these players lose value if they're not allowed to establish their role. I hope the new GM recognizes this and cashes in on players while they still have value. We need to consolidate. Rather than watch guys get traded in a few years for next to nothing... Bemstrom, Roslovic, Peeke, Foudy etc.

They will have to go after guys who are considered untouchable. I am looking specifically at players between age 23-28 with a lot of term or that expire as RFAs.. and guys without a NMC or NTC. The resources to make a trade happen are there
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21 avr. à 14 h 26
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Dallas lmao what????

This isnt even remotely close

Sorry that was mean.

Robertson isn't getting moved, but this is a great package to go after an available star. I think you could go after someone like Buchnevich for less than this so you get a star (Ik he is old for your liking) but you get someone. Or just develop and wait another few seasons
21 avr. à 14 h 31
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If they develop and wait for a few more seasons, half the guys they have now won't have any value. That's my worry now. Just not enough roles available. They could always add more prospects to something like this. I think they should be willing to trade anybody not named Werenski or Fantilli
21 avr. à 15 h 4
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Dallas says no and Columbus would rather target a younger center like beniers (just example) with a massive overpay type trade like this.
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21 avr. à 15 h 8
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Dallas lmao what????

This isnt even remotely close

Sorry that was mean.

Robertson isn't getting moved, but this is a great package to go after an available star. I think you could go after someone like Buchnevich for less than this so you get a star (Ik he is old for your liking) but you get someone. Or just develop and wait another few seasons


I could see this package being of intrest to the blues, but i think theyd want a dman back over johnson or Marchenko
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21 avr. à 15 h 25
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I could see this package being of intrest to the blues, but i think theyd want a dman back over johnson or Marchenko


CBJ has a ton of defensive prospects so I'm sure they could get it to work
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21 avr. à 15 h 42
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I could see this package being of intrest to the blues, but i think theyd want a dman back over johnson or Marchenko


I don’t see a blues player as good or young as Robertson that would be worth a package like this or would be available.
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21 avr. à 15 h 43
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Quoting: goodjobbjs
If they develop and wait for a few more seasons, half the guys they have now won't have any value. That's my worry now. Just not enough roles available. They could always add more prospects to something like this. I think they should be willing to trade anybody not named Werenski or Fantilli


Which half of the guys won't have any value? Only Gaudreau, Jenner, Gudbranson, Severson and Merzlikins are signed through 2025-26 or later and will be over the age of 28.

If we wait a couple years, Fantilli, Brindley, Sillinger, Johnson, Mateychuk, and Jiricek won't have even hit their prime, they'll be 23 or younger. Texier, Marchenko, Voronkov, Chinakhov will be 26 or younger, just finally hitting their prime. Werenski and Laine will be 28.

I think people forget just how young this team is, 2nd youngest in the league. There really isn't an option other than wait for the next core to develop. Building around Jenner, Gaudreau, etc. isn't it. We tried that this year, and it's clear there isn't enough supporting cast to push for the playoffs yet. It's 100% fine to let the young core develop another couple of years and let Gaudreau, Jenner, and any other vets that stick around take lesser roles on a more competitive team.
21 avr. à 15 h 46
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Which half of the guys won't have any value? Only Gaudreau, Jenner, Gudbranson, Severson and Merzlikins are signed through 2025-26 or later and will be over the age of 28.

If we wait a couple years, Fantilli, Brindley, Sillinger, Johnson, Mateychuk, and Jiricek won't have even hit their prime, they'll be 23 or younger. Texier, Marchenko, Voronkov, Chinakhov will be 26 or younger, just finally hitting their prime. Werenski and Laine will be 28.

I think people forget just how young this team is, 2nd youngest in the league. There really isn't an option other than wait for the next core to develop. Building around Jenner, Gaudreau, etc. isn't it. We tried that this year, and it's clear there isn't enough supporting cast to push for the playoffs yet. It's 100% fine to let the young core develop another couple of years and let Gaudreau, Jenner, and any other vets that stick around take lesser roles on a more competitive team.


I think they are saying a lot of these young guys are gonna bust out.
Which is a fair concern but I don’t see it being as likely.
IMO players hitting their ceilings are as it follows.
Locks are marchy and Fantilli, likely hits are sillinger, voronkov and maybes (50/50s) are Johnson chinakhov and Johnson. This is also to reach full potential not to miss the league like a nail yakupov.
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21 avr. à 15 h 55
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Dallas, And that offer isn't even close for Jason Robertson.
21 avr. à 16 h 2
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what if the CBJ pick ends up 1OA won't you be kicking yourself then.
This is a wait and see trade.
21 avr. à 17 h 22
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Quoting: Friendly_Cannon
I don’t see a blues player as good or young as Robertson that would be worth a package like this or would be available.


Thomas and Kyrou, thomas proably could pull the same as robertson in a package and kyrou could if its peter Chiarelli on the other end of the phone

But thats why i said they accept this but most likley they ask for a d prospect over both players
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Both. Jason Robertson is untouchable likely, and the Stars are contenders who don't need to replace their star with young gus. Meanwhile the Jackets are still fixing things and need the futures to make sure they have a solid future foundation.
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Thomas and Kyrou, thomas proably could pull the same as robertson in a package and kyrou could if its peter Chiarelli on the other end of the phone

But thats why i said they accept this but most likley they ask for a d prospect over both players


Would agree with Thomas. Don’t know what d prospect you would ask for. Jiricek can’t happen. Unless it’s only him and small adds. (Like a second or cuelemans) Didn’t think he would be available hence that sentence. We need a top right shot defender more than anny other position (assuming Fantilli doesn’t bust out lol) and he is him as far as our process is concerned.
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Would agree with Thomas. Don’t know what d prospect you would ask for. Jiricek can’t happen. Unless it’s only him and small adds. (Like a second or cuelemans) Didn’t think he would be available hence that sentence. We need a top right shot defender more than anny other position (assuming Fantilli doesn’t bust out lol) and he is him as far as our process is concerned.


Jircek for Thomas? No Thomas isn’t available
Maybe Kyrou, but probably not. Buch could but I could only see him for Jireck as a 1 for 1. Even then I would do that if I’m CBJ, not given there current state
21 avr. à 21 h 32
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Jircek for Thomas? No Thomas isn’t available
Maybe Kyrou, but probably not. Buch could but I could only see him for Jireck as a 1 for 1. Even then I would do that if I’m CBJ, not given there current state


Yeah not a chance the jackets trade jiricek one for one for kyrou or buch. Both good players but not good fits especially for jiricek
22 avr. à 11 h 10
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Yeah not a chance the jackets trade jiricek one for one for kyrou or buch. Both good players but not good fits especially for jiricek


Facts! Thats why I was a little confused on him saying that. Also I mean Cbj wouldn’t do that. Not would
 
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