When those 5 untouchables all have more value than Brady Tkachuk you do.

I was going off of alwaysnextyear comment (below).

This is a team that desperately wants to make the jump to being a playoff contender. They have good young pieces and players entering their prime that should keep them relevant for a while if they can level up. If they do consider trading Brady (and I'm not sure why they would unless he's asking out), I think it will definitely be for a comparable player or package of players that will help the Sens win-now.

Marino is a good #3 dman who’s great defensively and could play top pair if he’s paired with an offensive guy (Quinn Hughes for example). Yes he’s had a down year this year but is still a good player

The 1st next year matches the Vegas 1st they traded (which ended up being earlier than expected at the time of the trade because they missed the playoffs)

Holtz could be upgraded to a better piece but it’s not far off the Eichel return. And Eichel is a better player as well as a center, which cancels out most if not all of the negative value his neck injury added into the deal

Sanderson at 20 last year was less sheltered than Nemec is now

I see that, but to me there is no win-now trade that involves Tkachuk. Hes going to be the best player in the deal pretty much no matter what. Unless youre looking at like Hamilton + Mercer then maybe theres an avenue there, but even then I dont know that Mercer does enough for the Sens to go from 25 year old Tkachuk on a good deal to 31 year old Hamilton on a big deal until hes realisitcally over the hump. Like if anyone is making a win now deal between these 2 teams centered around Tkachuk its the devils

Sens passed on trading for Marino with Ryan Bowness as an AGM who knew exactly who he was since he was in the Pens management

Casey is ass . He’s a 5’9 offensive D. Good luck with that at the nhl level

Buddy stfu. You actually have no idea what you’re talking about

Sounds like their mistake.

Quinn Hughes is 5’10
Cale Makar is 5’11
Adam Fox is 5’11

That’s the 3 best defensemen in the league and all are 1-2 inches shorter than Casey

Bratt=Tkachuk
Nemec>Tkachuk
Hughes>Tkachuk
Hischier>Tkachuk

Have you considered that #hits and #size are the only variables that matter?

Nope not at all. I don’t want him

Have you considered that #hits and #size are the only variables that matter?

I don’t want to trade him to the Devils. They have no good assets the Sens need besides Hischier or Nemec or Jack Hughes

you don’t trade for Brady and not give up a piece you don’t want to move

You see it as production .

GM see it as a rare power forward type that is still young and is one of the best players on the Sens and a leader

For real he’s sounding how Habs fans were with Josh Anderson

Speaking of which, maybe the Sens should move #soft Tim Stutzle for Anderson! More #hits and #size and #grit

Yeah sounds like exactly what I heard about Timo Meier.

Yeah but Calgary didnt take that deal so its a moot point.

Meier was a rental . Brady has term. Again Brady’s value is more like Debrincat from Chicago with more term

Meier was a rental . Brady has term. Again Brady’s value is more like Debrincat from Chicago with more term

Quinn Hughes is 5’10
Cale Makar is 5’11
Adam Fox is 5’11

That’s the 3 best defensemen in the league and all are 1-2 inches taller than Casey

Speaking of the habs, honestly if I'm gonna offer a massive package for a basement dwelling canadian teams captain I think I'd rather go after Suzuki.

Center, better contract, better defensively.

I would disagree.

I think Uncle Fitzy would too.

Casey is roughly same size as those guys.

And like those guys, his skating is elite, which can make up for smaller frame. He is solid on his skates.

But the idea of Casey as offense-only dman is an uninformed view. His defense is solid…was statistically one of best defensive dmen in NCAA this year. And was primarily deployed as defensive dman at world juniors (pk, up-a-goal situations, etc).

There is always risks with any prospects, especially smaller ones, but Famous Seamus has plenty of two-way ability.