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Créé par: NucksnOilers

Équipe: 2024-25 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 2 avr. 2024

Publié: 2 avr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

- I think Hronek is probably asking for a 8.5 million dollar deal, I think the two groups meet in the middle at 7.5 but I wouldn't be shocked if it ends up being 8x8. He's staying no matter what regardless
- I think Joshua signs a 2 year deal at a nice cap hit for both sides in hopes to return an even bigger contract on the open market later
- The writing is on the wall for Mikheyev sadly, he's gone.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Hronek, Filip	8	7 500 000 $
Podkolzin, Vasily	2	1 750 000 $
Silovs, Arturs	2	1 250 000 $
McWard, Cole	2	950 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Joshua, Dakota	2	3 250 000 $
Zadorov, Nikita	4	4 250 000 $
Greer, AJ	2	975 000 $
Cole, Ian	2	2 250 000 $

Transactions

VAN

Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PHI)

Détails additionnels:

Potential destination?? I've seen some Miles Wood mock trades to the Sabers so maybe Mikheyev is an option too

BUF

Mikheyev, Ilya
Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (SJS)

VAN

Buchnevich, Pavel

STL

Podkolzin, Vasily
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VAN)

Détails additionnels:

Seems like an Allvin move

Rachats de contrats

Oliver Ekman-Larsson: 2 346 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	87 700 000 $	81 896 667 $	0 $	475 000 $	5 803 333 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Buchnevich, Pavel 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ AG, AD, C M-NTC UFA - 1	Pettersson, Elias 11 600 000 $11 600 000 $ C, AG UFA - 8	Lekkerimäki, Jonathan 950 000 $950 000 $ (475 000 $$475K) AD, C RFA - 2
Höglander, Nils 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Miller, J.T. 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C, AG, AD NMC UFA - 6	Boeser, Brock 6 650 000 $6 650 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Joshua, Dakota 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG UFA	Suter, Pius 1 600 000 $1 600 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Garland, Conor 4 950 000 $4 950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Di Giuseppe, Phillip 775 000 $775 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Åman, Nils 825 000 $825 000 $ C RFA - 2	Greer, AJ 975 000 $975 000 $ AD, AG UFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hughes, Quinn 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Hronek, Filip 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DD RFA	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Soucy, Carson 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 2	Zadorov, Nikita 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA	Silovs, Arturs 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ G RFA
Cole, Ian 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA	McWard, Cole 950 000 $950 000 $ DD RFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Juulsen, Noah 775 000 $775 000 $ DD UFA - 1		Poolman, Tucker 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1

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Tsmash

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seems like a move where the blues say no

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Quoting: Tsmash

seems like a move where the blues say no

The price for Buch is a 1st + 2nd no?

Feels pretty close to that

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Tsmash

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Quoting: NucksnOilers

The price for Buch is a 1st + 2nd no?

Feels pretty close to that

No. The blues need defense prospects or young defenseman. If they are trading for picks they are going to want multiple firsts+. They are not actively shopping buch at the moment and will likely seek an extension in the offseason so it is going to take a big offer to pry him out of St. Louis. If the price was a 1st and 2nd he would have never made it past the deadline.

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Yeah Buffalo already is having trouble finding spots for all there Wingers. And the 4th is going the wrong way, guy is owed more than his Cap hit next year.

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Vancouver isn't a good tradingpartner for trading Buch, as the Blues would probably ask for Willander as the main piece coming back, and Van consequently hanging up the phone.

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People dump players to buffalo all the time.

No thanks

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Tennisman142

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Yeah that's a no for the blues. A 1st a year from now, Podklozin who has ok AHL numbers but nothing in the last 2 years in the NHL.

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xercuses

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starts with Wallinder

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Quoting: Beauterham

Vancouver isn't a good tradingpartner for trading Buch, as the Blues would probably ask for Willander as the main piece coming back, and Van consequently hanging up the phone.

idk why the Nucks would go asking if they arent ready to give up wallinder

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Quoting: xercuses

idk why the Nucks would go asking if they arent ready to give up wallinder

They first will have to aquire Wallinder from Detroit too. ;-)

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Quoting: Beauterham

They first will have to aquire Wallinder from Detroit too. ;-)

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Quoting: xercuses

starts with Wallinder

A pending UFA winger doesn’t get Willander. Guentzel who is better didn’t even return a guaranteed 1st or a prospect on that level

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Quoting: mv21227

A pending UFA winger doesn’t get Willander. Guentzel who is better didn’t even return a guaranteed 1st or a prospect on that level

Guentzel is not better lmao

However look what Lindholm got! id expect something along those lines for buch who is a better all around player than lindholm and Guentzul

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Quoting: xercuses

Guentzel is not better lmao

However look what Lindholm got! id expect something along those lines for buch who is a better all around player than lindholm and Guentzul

Buch is great but Guentzel is absolutely better

Lindholm is also a center which boosted his value. But if you’re expecting something similar to what he got then that wouldn’t be Willander, it would be very close to what the OP offered along with cap like Mikheyev going back. Maybe Raty or D Petey instead of Podkolzin

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Quoting: Beauterham

Vancouver isn't a good tradingpartner for trading Buch, as the Blues would probably ask for Willander as the main piece coming back, and Van consequently hanging up the phone.

Exactly this.

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Quoting: mv21227

If the blues don’t get something back then I expect them to just keep him

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Wood to Buffalo might make sense
Mikheyev’s Cap hit is about double Wood’s though,
so we’d pass on him quite easily

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Quoting: Tsmash

I feel like that's the price now rather than the deadline.

If they move him at the deadline it was going to be with retention, the blues are still in the playoff hunt and the team gets him for the playoffs. Even if my package isn't the best fit for the Blues (which it doesn't seem to be) the price is lower than it used to be.

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Quoting: NucksnOilers

I doubt they lower the price. If they don’t get what they want for him they can just keep him and extend him.

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Quoting: BUFF36

Yeah Buffalo already is having trouble finding spots for all there Wingers. And the 4th is going the wrong way, guy is owed more than his Cap hit next year.

Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

People dump players to buffalo all the time.

No thanks

Quoting: AntiAnalytics

Wood to Buffalo might make sense
Mikheyev’s Cap hit is about double Wood’s though,
so we’d pass on him quite easily

Yeah swapping the picks in the trade is pretty easy but I understand his contract is a little heavy for the Sabers. Another destination seems to make more sense from what I've read

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Quoting: Tsmash

I doubt they lower the price. If they don’t get what they want for him they can just keep him and extend him.

The price will absolutely be lower now that he’s a rental rather than a team getting a full season and 2 playoff runs

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Quoting: NucksnOilers

Yeah swapping the picks in the trade is pretty easy but I understand his contract is a little heavy for the Sabers. Another destination seems to make more sense from what I've read

Or if u guys held $$$

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Quoting: Tsmash

I doubt they lower the price. If they don’t get what they want for him they can just keep him and extend him.

I don't think it'll be about value in a Buch package more so fit. They would reject the package I proposed but don't be shocked if it's the same kind of package where it's a former 1st round defensive prospect instead of Podz

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