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Penguins at the Draft

Créé par: mynameisliang_
Équipe: 2024-25 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 10 mars 2024
Publié: 10 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Had a Penguins thread about Dubas served to me in my Reddit Algorithm, so I wanted to continue some of my thoughts here.

This all ends with the Pens emptying their cupboard to improve their overall roster, and start the year with cap space to accrue towards the deadline if they want to continue to make additions and swing for it one last time. Crosby needs to extend July 1 for this to make sense, but this is them going for it for a last dance with Crosby/Malkin/Letang, and whether they win the cup or miss the playoffs, they are going hard rebuild in 2025-26.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
2900 000 $
23 200 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
The condition on the Pens' 2024 1st in the deal to SJ is that if the 2024 1st is top-10, the pick slides to 2025. The Senators would be acquiring the Pens' 2024 pick which means they're moving back from #4-#5 to #8-#9, and sending Chychrun to get Karlsson at $7m.
OTT
  1. Karlsson, Erik (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
$3m/year in retention is a lot of retention, but I think it's worth it. By bringing back Chychrun, you get a player who is not quite as good as karlsson, but you're clearing $3m in cap space.
2.
CGY
  1. Pickering, Owen
  2. Yager, Brayden [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Gustafsson, David [Droits de RFA]
  2. Iafallo, Alex (2 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Perfetti, Cole [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Winnipeg needs Cap space to re-sign Monahan and they need assets to try to find an RHD somewhere. We have Lambert and Mcgroarty who will be promoted to fill the Iafallo/Perfetti slots in our roster, so to me it make sense to move these guys and get a bunch of draft picks, restock the cupboard then try to flip them for an RHD to replace Demelo who I think will have priced himself out of an extension in Winnipeg.
WPG
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
With this trade and the previous one, the Penguins are emptying the cupboard to go for it one last time with Crosby/Malkin/Letang. By acquiring Perfetti, they get a little younger as well.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de NYR
2025
Logo de PIT
Logo de WPG
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de FLA
2026
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de SJS
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de CHI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2487 000 000 $85 687 675 $0 $0 $1 312 325 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AG, C
RFA
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
RFA
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
RFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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10 mars à 18 h 17
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Lmao no?
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10 mars à 18 h 37
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Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: RationalHockeyFan
Lmao no?


I assume you're a jets fan from your profile picture. I'll issue this comment from my house in St. Vital.

I don't think the Jets *need* Perfetti. We have Lambert and Mcgroarty who will graduate next season, and we have Barlow on the way, with Lucius waiting in the wings if he can ever stay healthy. What the Jets *do* need is cap space. We want to re-sign Monahan, and we *should* be trying to extend Demelo as well, but I don't know if that will be possible. Iafallo is a fine player, but he's not worth his $4m cap hit, and we need the roster spot for the aforementioned rookies. Gustafsson doesnt factor into our long-term plans. We can't afford to Re-sign Monahan and Demelo *and* extend Perfetti long-term. We also need to get Nikolaj Ehlers another contract on July 1 as well. I think that by converting Perfetti into a high draft pick and a couple of second rounders, we restock the cupboard of draft picks and are able to either extend Demelo or try to trade for a difference maker at RD using the acquired picks.

if the roster looks like this next year, I would be more than okay with it.

Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Monahan-Mcgroarty
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Lambert-Namestnikov
Kupari

Morrissey-???
Heinola-Pionk
Samberg-Schmidt

Jets use the assets returned in this trade to fill the ???. Either you flip some 2nd round picks to bring back a servicable d-man or you take the high 1st and other assets and bring back someone crazy from a team that is looking at a rebuild.
10 mars à 18 h 41
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A whole lot of no way here
10 mars à 18 h 46
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Wouldn't trade Chych for EK straight up, let alone dropping in the draft to do so
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10 mars à 18 h 47
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That team can't win the cup
10 mars à 18 h 48
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Another trash offer for a 1st pairing RD who isn't available.
10 mars à 18 h 51
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Lmao no
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10 mars à 19 h 40
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11 mars à 12 h 8
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Quoting: mynameisliang_
I assume you're a jets fan from your profile picture. I'll issue this comment from my house in St. Vital.

I don't think the Jets *need* Perfetti. We have Lambert and Mcgroarty who will graduate next season, and we have Barlow on the way, with Lucius waiting in the wings if he can ever stay healthy. What the Jets *do* need is cap space. We want to re-sign Monahan, and we *should* be trying to extend Demelo as well, but I don't know if that will be possible. Iafallo is a fine player, but he's not worth his $4m cap hit, and we need the roster spot for the aforementioned rookies. Gustafsson doesnt factor into our long-term plans. We can't afford to Re-sign Monahan and Demelo *and* extend Perfetti long-term. We also need to get Nikolaj Ehlers another contract on July 1 as well. I think that by converting Perfetti into a high draft pick and a couple of second rounders, we restock the cupboard of draft picks and are able to either extend Demelo or try to trade for a difference maker at RD using the acquired picks.

if the roster looks like this next year, I would be more than okay with it.

Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Ehlers-Monahan-Mcgroarty
Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Lambert-Namestnikov
Kupari

Morrissey-???
Heinola-Pionk
Samberg-Schmidt

Jets use the assets returned in this trade to fill the ???. Either you flip some 2nd round picks to bring back a servicable d-man or you take the high 1st and other assets and bring back someone crazy from a team that is looking at a rebuild.


I'm not opposed to trading Perfetti at all, but only if the return is right. Like you said, it would need to be a 3-way trade for a 1RD/2RD with term. I like Iafallo, but I also understand that his contract makes him difficult to fit into the roster next year. I'm not willing to retain on Iafallo, he's worth more to the Jets at $4M than a free roster spot at $2M.

There's also the Winnipeg factor and the human factor to consider. Both of these guys like playing here, which can't be said for anyone the Jets acquire in return for them. The human factor complicates things too. Trading Perfetti would likely piss off Samberg, and trading Iafallo (assuming AI doesn't want to be traded) would piss off Vilardi. Both Samberg and Vilardi fit into the long-term plans for the Jets, and trading their friends might make them think twice about staying in Winnipeg long-term.

The good news is that Perfetti has kinda played himself out of signing an 8-year deal this summer, so the Jets can give him a bridge deal to keep his AAV low for a couple more years. Personally, I think Iafallo is the cap casualty this summer, Monahan getting re-signed is a 50/50. DeMelo is basically guaranteed to re-sign in Winnipeg. Heinola takes Dillon's spot like you said, and only one of Lambert/McGroarty makes the jump to the NHL. Either Perfetti re-signs and Kupari is the 13th FWD, or Perfetti is used to acquire that 1RD and the D-pairings look like:

JMo - New Guy
Heinola - DeMelo
Samberg - Pionk
Schmidt
11 mars à 12 h 20
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Even if EK is now too "old" for the Sens rebuild and not really the type they'd need, I was at least interested in a Chychrun - Karlsson (3 M$ retained) swap...

until I saw the pick swap LOL
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