Making the trades for Burns Karlsson Meier and Hertl more fair

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Créé par: sensonfire

Équipe: 2023-24 Sharks de San Jose

Date de création initiale: 10 mars 2024

Publié: 10 mars 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

1. Brent Burns

San Jose gets Carolina's 1st for 2023 in addition to what they got.

2. Erik Karlsson

San Jose gets two 2nds from Pittsburgh in addition to what they got and keeps Hamaliuk + their 2026 3rd.

3. Timo Meier

Simplify it.

Timo Meier for Shakir Mukhamadullin + New Jersey's 1st for 2023

If San Jose needs to take Johnsson AND retain on Meier, they get a 2nd that has a slight chance of turning into a 1st as well (i.e. whether the Devils made the ECF).

4. Tomas Hertl

A Jack Eichel-lite return, especially if there's retention on Hertl.

Transactions

SJS

How to make the Brent Burns trade more fair ...

CAR

San Jose gets Carolina's 1st for 2023 in addition to what they got.

SJS

Nadeau, Bradly [Liste de réserve]

CAR

SJS

How to make the Erik Karlsson trade more fair ...

PIT

San Jose gets two 2nds from Pittsburgh in addition to what they got and keeps Hamaliuk + their 2026 3rd.

SJS

Hamaliuk, Dillon
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (PIT)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (SJS)

PIT

SJS

How to make the Timo Meier trade more fair ...

NJD

Simplify it.

Timo Meier for Shakir Mukhamadullin + New Jersey's 1st for 2023

If San Jose needs to take Johnsson AND retain on Meier, they also get a 2nd that has a slight chance of turning into a 1st as well (i.e. whether the Devils made the ECF).

SJS

Simek, Radim
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (NJD)

DET

Kostin, Klim

SJS

Okhotiuk, Nikita

CGY

Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CHI)

SJS

Hatakka, Santeri
Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (COL)

NJD

Okhotiuk, Nikita
Zetterlund, Fabian
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (NJD)

SJS

How to make the Tomas Hertl trade more fair ...

VGK

An Eichel-lite return

Barbashev
Edstrom
2025 1st round pick (VGK)
2025 2nd round pick (VGK)

for

Hertl with retention
2025 3rd round pick (SJS)

10.

SJS

Barbashev, Ivan
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VGK)

Détails additionnels:

2027 3rd round pick (SJS)

VGK

Rachats de contrats

Martin Jones: 2 916 667 $
Rūdolfs Balcers: 308 334 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Brent Burns: 2 720 000 $ (34%)
Erik Karlsson: 1 500 000 $ (13.04%)
Tomas Hertl: 1 387 500 $ (17.05%)

Enfoui

Oskar Lindblom: 1 350 000 $ (2 500 000 $)
Radim Simek: 1 100 000 $ (2 250 000 $)
Nikolai Knyzhov: 100 000 $ (1 250 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	77 130 001 $	25 000 $	1 120 000 $	6 369 999 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Barbashev, Ivan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 5	Granlund, Mikael 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Barabanov, Alexander 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Eklund, William 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG RFA - 3	Labanc, Kevin 4 725 000 $4 725 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Zadina, Filip 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1	Bordeleau, Thomas 916 667 $916 667 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Kunin, Luke 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AD, C RFA - 1
Smith, Givani 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Sturm, Nico 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 2	Carpenter, Ryan 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Ferraro, Mario 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Rutta, Jan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Chrona, Magnus 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) G RFA - 2
Thrun, Henry 912 500 $912 500 $ (212 500 $$212K) DG RFA - 1	Burroughs, Kyle 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Cooley, Devin 775 000 $775 000 $ G UFA - 1
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Addison, Calen 825 000 $825 000 $ DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Bailey, Justin 775 000 $775 000 $ AD UFA - 1	Couture, Logan 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4
MacDonald, Jacob 762 500 $762 500 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Vanecek, Vitek 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G UFA - 2
	Blackwood, Mackenzie 2 350 000 $2 350 000 $ G UFA - 2
	Benning, Matthew 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DD UFA - 3
	Emberson, Ty 775 000 $775 000 $ DD RFA - 1

10 mars à 18 h 6

yikes

EklundCelebriniSmith

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Adding Barbashev+2nd makes the trade unfair for Vegas

sensonfire a aimé ceci.

10 mars à 18 h 18

sensonfire

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sensonfire

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Quoting: yikes

Adding Barbashev+2nd makes the trade unfair for Vegas

How would you make it fair for both teams ?

10 mars à 19 h 0

NHLfan10506

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Hatakka was a throw-in on Meier deal…but you know what? We’re gonna keep him. He has looked pretty good thus far.

I think the simplified Meier deal would have been Holtz + pick.

sensonfire a aimé ceci.

10 mars à 19 h 4

Letsgosharks

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Quoting: sensonfire

How would you make it fair for both teams ?

Honestly for me just no retention and no 3rds going the other way

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10 mars à 19 h 5

Letsgosharks

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Hatakka was a throw-in on Meier deal…but you know what? We’re gonna keep him. He has looked pretty good thus far.

I think the simplified Meier deal would have been Holtz + pick.

Would’ve loved holtz. Zetterlund is a solid piece and hopefully Musty and Muk pan out

sensonfire a aimé ceci.

10 mars à 19 h 7

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: Letsgosharks

Would’ve loved holtz. Zetterlund is a solid piece and hopefully Musty and Muk pan out

Love Zettertank.

There was a period where he was on Hischier’s line and they were jiving, and many Devils fans thought he was going to be part of future.

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10 mars à 19 h 18

Letsgosharks

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Love Zettertank.

There was a period where he was on Hischier’s line and they were jiving, and many Devils fans thought he was going to be part of future.

Yeah he’s on pace for 20 goals on the sharks which is about 90 goals on any contending team so that’s cool too!

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11 mars à 0 h 17

goodfella

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Hatakka was a throw-in on Meier deal…but you know what? We’re gonna keep him. He has looked pretty good thus far.

I think the simplified Meier deal would have been Holtz + pick.

I was the only one on here saying Meier for Holtz and the 23 1st.

Everyone else wanted what felt like both Hughes brothers or a 7th rounder in 26.

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11 mars à 0 h 19

goodfella

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I think a fair Hertl trade would have been not to.

Since he committed to the team, but apparently wanted out after we signed and overpaid him. Then he goes and screws us.
I don't know who to be more upset with, Hertl or Grier. The lack of transparency on the truth makes me hate them both.

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