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my idea for a tdl and offseason

Créé par: Tsmash
Équipe: 2024-25 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 3 mars 2024
Publié: 3 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
47 000 000 $
21 200 000 $
21 500 000 $
44 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 500 000 $
44 000 000 $
57 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
CAR
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel (2 900 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (STL)
2.
STL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Hayes, Kevin (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (STL)
3.
STL
  1. Lindgren, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
NYR
  1. Stancl, Jakub [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
4.
STL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (STL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
5.
PHI
  1. Bolduc, Zachary
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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Logo de VGK
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Logo de STL
Logo de NYI
2025
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Logo de STL
2026
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Logo de STL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2287 700 000 $87 104 999 $0 $0 $595 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
835 833 $835 833 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C
UFA - 3
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
RFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, C
RFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
852 500 $852 500 $
C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
RFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
775 000 $775 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
RFA
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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3 mars à 2 h 8
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Lindgren is not for sale, especially for non-roster bums... we aren't rebuilding haha.

Hayes trade could work.
3 mars à 2 h 28
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Flyers decline, Frost is their only true offensive C in the entire organization and it'd probably take a big overpay to grab him (on a really good contract too)
3 mars à 2 h 53
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Canes decline, Necas > Buch
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3 mars à 3 h 34
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Rangers say nope and nope.
3 mars à 5 h 46
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Futures for Buch. Canes aren’t moving roster players for him.
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3 mars à 8 h 30
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Canes decline, Necas > Buch


In what way?
3 mars à 9 h 16
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What my hot take fellow Canes fan means is that Necas’s current situation is better than Buch. 25 year old RFA who will likely be with the next team he signs with for a long time is a better situation than someone his next team for 1.25 years.

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In what way?
3 mars à 19 h 50
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In what way?


Same production while being 5 years younger and cost controlled.
3 mars à 21 h 23
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Same production while being 5 years younger and cost controlled.


He’s yet to be a PPG player. Buch has 191 points in 194 games as a Blue the last 3 seasons. Necas has 154 points in 216 games the last 3 seasons. They are not close from a production standpoint. Put the bottle down man
4 mars à 9 h 7
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He’s yet to be a PPG player. Buch has 191 points in 194 games as a Blue the last 3 seasons. Necas has 154 points in 216 games the last 3 seasons. They are not close from a production standpoint. Put the bottle down man


Necas had 71 points last year, that's actually more than Buch had... stop it. Buchnevich's career high is 76, and Necas is already showing that he'll challenge that. With Buch's injury concerns, no reason to trade the more productive and younger player. You keep Buchnevich if the ask is Necas because no one is giving you a younger, more productive player for him!
4 mars à 12 h 11
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Necas had 71 points last year, that's actually more than Buch had... stop it. Buchnevich's career high is 76, and Necas is already showing that he'll challenge that. With Buch's injury concerns, no reason to trade the more productive and younger player. You keep Buchnevich if the ask is Necas because no one is giving you a younger, more productive player for him!



Buch had an injury last year, but I wouldn't say he is a player with Injury concerns. Also that said just because Necas had more raw points by virtue of playing more games probably doesnt make him a more productive player. Necas has never had a PPG season in his life and isn't nearly as good defensively as Buch. Buch has been PPG for all three seasons with the Blues and plays an all-around more impactful 200 ft game than Necas.

You can argue that for contract reasons you would rather keep Necas and I get that, but I don't know how you can pretend that Necas is a better player than Buch in a vacuum.
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4 mars à 12 h 13
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Buch had an injury last year, but I wouldn't say he is a player with Injury concerns. Also that said just because Necas had more raw points by virtue of playing more games probably doesnt make him a more productive player. Necas has never had a PPG season in his life and isn't nearly as good defensively as Buch. Buch has been PPG for all three seasons with the Blues and plays an all-around more impactful 200 ft game than Necas.

You can argue that for contract reasons you would rather keep Necas and I get that, but I don't know how you can pretend that Necas is a better player than Buch in a vacuum.


Buch and Necas are both fine defensively. Not great but not bad. Necas is the better player. He's outscoring Buch, he's 5 years younger, cheaper, and better. Buch has 1 70 point season. Hard to call him a PPG winger when he's only come close once to the 82 point mark. Necas is hands down the better player, arguing against that right now is pure bias.
4 mars à 12 h 19
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Buch and Necas are both fine defensively. Not great but not bad. Necas is the better player. He's outscoring Buch, he's 5 years younger, cheaper, and better. Buch has 1 70 point season. Hard to call him a PPG winger when he's only come close once to the 82 point mark. Necas is hands down the better player, arguing against that right now is pure bias.


You say that like it should just be taken as a fact.
1. Buch is among the best defensive wingers in the League. Necas barely plays PK minutes.
2. Name one season ever that Necas had a higher PPG than Buch
3. He is actually only 3 years younger
4. He isn't going to be cheaper soon, especially if Buch were acquired at retention.
5. Necas has had one 70 point season and regardless of games played Buch is PPG player and Necas has never reached PPG no matter how you spin
6. You are last person I want to hear about Bias from.
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5 mars à 2 h 6
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You say that like it should just be taken as a fact.
1. Buch is among the best defensive wingers in the League. Necas barely plays PK minutes.
2. Name one season ever that Necas had a higher PPG than Buch
3. He is actually only 3 years younger
4. He isn't going to be cheaper soon, especially if Buch were acquired at retention.
5. Necas has had one 70 point season and regardless of games played Buch is PPG player and Necas has never reached PPG no matter how you spin
6. You are last person I want to hear about Bias from.


Buch is good, but he's not close to Stone etc defensively. PK doesn't mean good defensively either, there's a STONG difference between 5v5 defense and 4v5 defense. Nino Niederreiter is among the strongest defensive wingers in the league and doesn't play PK.

Necas outscored Buch last season. I don't care about PPG because you're never going to get a full 82 from Buchnevich, his injury problems are a major concern. Necas has outproduced him last year and very is on pace to do it again this year.

Buchnevich is 29, Necas is 25. It's 4 years

Buchnevich will be cheaper for a single season. Then, he's going to either walk away, or want a drastic overpayment. Not worth it, Necas will be cheaper in the long run.

PPG doesn't matter with a player that never plays 82 games. Necas outproduced him last year, and will probably do it again this year.

You are being bias. Stop. Necas is the better player, he's cost controlled, and is simply the more desirable asset. Don't like it? Keep Buchnevich because he's not worth Necas.
5 mars à 8 h 48
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Buch is good, but he's not close to Stone etc defensively. PK doesn't mean good defensively either, there's a STONG difference between 5v5 defense and 4v5 defense. Nino Niederreiter is among the strongest defensive wingers in the league and doesn't play PK.

Necas outscored Buch last season. I don't care about PPG because you're never going to get a full 82 from Buchnevich, his injury problems are a major concern. Necas has outproduced him last year and very is on pace to do it again this year.

Buchnevich is 29, Necas is 25. It's 4 years

Buchnevich will be cheaper for a single season. Then, he's going to either walk away, or want a drastic overpayment. Not worth it, Necas will be cheaper in the long run.

PPG doesn't matter with a player that never plays 82 games. Necas outproduced him last year, and will probably do it again this year.

You are being bias. Stop. Necas is the better player, he's cost controlled, and is simply the more desirable asset. Don't like it? Keep Buchnevich because he's not worth Necas.


Buch is 28. Where did you learn to read?
5 mars à 10 h 32
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Buch is 28. Where did you learn to read?


He'll turn 29 before the end of the season, Necas turned 25 in January. There's 4 years between them, learn to count.
 
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