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A Rebuttal to all the Larsson to the Leafs Trade Proposals

Créé par: KrakenTheCode
Publié: 29 févr. à 14 h 37
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 42/192 (22%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoMaple Leafs de Toronto

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 16 562 500 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 14 427 501 $
Variation de l'allègement: 1 100 000 $
Espace initial sous le plafond salarial: 3 234 999 $
Transaction simultanéeStatut initialNouveau statutImpact sur la masse salarialeFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Timmins, ConorIRLTIR0 $0-----------
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Robertson, NicholasExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-796 667 $011---4081119--
Niemelä, TopiExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Islanders de New YorkNYI)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Larsson, AdamKraken de SeattleLNH-4 000 000 $011---5831417--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial3 234 999 $2347622315
Variation-3 203 333 $0-1-1-1-10
Final31 666 $ (↓)2346 (↓)61 (↓)1 (↓)2 (↓)15-53-2

Logo de Kraken de SeattleKraken de Seattle

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Larsson, AdamKraken de SeattleLNH-875 000 $011---5831417--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Robertson, NicholasExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-174 271 $011---4081119--
Niemelä, TopiExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Islanders de New YorkNYI)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 078 174 $2346613712
Variation700 729 $011110
Final1 778 903 $ (↑)2347 (↑)62 (↑)4 (↑)8 (↑)125-32
29 févr. à 14 h 47
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This is what I would consider a reasonable offer for Larsson in the hypothetical scenario where he's on the trade block. The trade comp I used is the deal that sent Jake Muzzin from the Kings to the Leafs back in 2019 for Sean Durzi, Carl Grundström, and a 2019 first round pick. In that deal, LA got a quality RHD prospect, promising young forward, and a first round pick for a shutdown top four defenseman with an extra year of term on his contract at a cap hit of $4M.

Larsson is a similar player to Muzzin with an identical contract situation, so he should fetch a similar return at minimum, with a quality RHD prospect (Niemelä), promising young forward (Robertson) and a first round pick. However, Larsson is a RHD while Muzzin was a LHD, so the relative positional scarcity increases Larsson's trade value. Something worth noting is that Seattle is much closer to contention than the Kings were at the time of the trade, and are much less inclined to trade one of their key players. So even though I would consider this offer fair, it might still not be enough to convince the Kraken to make a deal.

Keep in mind that it has been reported the Kraken are not entertaining trading Larsson, and it is basically a guarantee he sticks around in Seattle for the foreseeable future. This was mainly a hypothetical and a blanket response to all the Larsson trade ideas I've seen floating around.
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29 févr. à 14 h 59
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Poor Leafs fans... Now that Tanev has been traded they have to shift gears and make their ridiculous lowball offers for a different defenseman. I don't feel sorry for them at all, not one bit!
29 févr. à 15 h 36
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Quoting: KrakenTheCode
This is what I would consider a reasonable offer for Larsson in the hypothetical scenario where he's on the trade block. The trade comp I used is the deal that sent Jake Muzzin from the Kings to the Leafs back in 2019 for Sean Durzi, Carl Grundström, and a 2019 first round pick. In that deal, LA got a quality RHD prospect, promising young forward, and a first round pick for a shutdown top four defenseman with an extra year of term on his contract at a cap hit of $4M.

Larsson is a similar player to Muzzin with an identical contract situation, so he should fetch a similar return at minimum, with a quality RHD prospect (Niemelä), promising young forward (Robertson) and a first round pick. However, Larsson is a RHD while Muzzin was a LHD, so the relative positional scarcity increases Larsson's trade value. Something worth noting is that Seattle is much closer to contention than the Kings were at the time of the trade, and are much less inclined to trade one of their key players. So even though I would consider this offer fair, it might still not be enough to convince the Kraken to make a deal.

Keep in mind that it has been reported the Kraken are not entertaining trading Larsson, and it is basically a guarantee he sticks around in Seattle for the foreseeable future. This was mainly a hypothetical and a blanket response to all the Larsson trade ideas I've seen floating around.


Ohhhh boy.
Ok. 1) Durzi was unsigned. Leafs were trading his RIGHTS ONLY. Durzi was 20. Topi is 21 and has a contract. Topi has played in multiple international tournys. Durzis career was very vanilla at the time.
2) Grundstrom had never played an NHL game at the time of the deal. In fact, he had only played a handful of games in North America. 28 games to be exact. For the Marlies. As a call up from Europe. He was already 21. Not even trending to be an NHL player.
Robertson has 71 NHL games under his belt at 22. Even has playoff games. Currently on pace for 16 goals and 40 pts and is a plus player. IN THE NHL. ??? Comparing a 20 goal guy to a non NHLer??
Larsson and Muzzin are/were the same age. Muzzin was coming off a 42 point season. Larsson is on pace for 25 points.....
Muzzin had 50 NHL playoff games at the time. Was a plus 4 in those games with 20 points.
Larsson has 38 playoff games. Is a -4 in those games with 13 points.
Muzzin had won a cup as a top pair D man.
Larsson has never won a cup. In fact. He has never been past the second round.
Muzzin had three 40 point seasons at the time.
Larsson has never had better than 33 points
And you added an extra pick and think you still might need to add more huh? lol
If you are going to shovel **** at people. At least pretend to know what you are talking about first lol
BRUTAL.
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