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Créé par: Njdev4
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 27 févr. 2024
Publié: 27 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Only want tkachuck but sens hate chychrun
Transactions
NJD
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. Tkachuk, Brady
Détails additionnels:
Chychrun 25% salary retention
OTT
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Marino, John
  3. Mercer, Dawson
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 500 000 $81 360 713 $422 500 $4 290 000 $2 139 287 $
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8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
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UFA - 8
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
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UFA - 7
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
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UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 8
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
RFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
RFA - 1
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
DD
RFA - 3
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 2

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27 févr. à 5 h 21
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Take out Mercer and Marino and Chychrun
27 févr. à 5 h 33
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Take out Mercer and Marino and Chychrun


I don't think holtz n 2 firsts would get tkachuk
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27 févr. à 6 h 30
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I don't think holtz n 2 firsts would get tkachuk


correct!
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27 févr. à 7 h 9
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OTT would want Nemec, if that is a no, then no brady
27 févr. à 7 h 21
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Take out Mercer and Marino and Chychrun


Take out Tkachuk and Holtz. Then maybe
27 févr. à 7 h 37
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Take out Tkachuk and Holtz. Then maybe


I wouldn't trade mercer for chychrun straight up let alone with 2 1st's n marino hahaha. There's a reason chychrun has been in trade talks for 3 yrs now
27 févr. à 8 h 11
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I wouldn't trade mercer for chychrun straight up let alone with 2 1st's n marino hahaha. There's a reason chychrun has been in trade talks for 3 yrs now


Just highlighting the ridiculousness of Tkachuk for holtz and 2 picks... And a Tkachuk trad win general
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Quoting: Njdev4
I don't think holtz n 2 firsts would get tkachuk


That would be more than enough for Brady. He’s not his brother
27 févr. à 8 h 12
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Just highlighting the ridiculousness of Tkachuk for holtz and 2 picks... And a Tkachuk trad win general


Meier comp. identical production, physicality, contractual cost, and Meier is better defensively.
27 févr. à 8 h 16
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Meier comp. identical production, physicality, contractual cost, and Meier is better defensively.


And yet, Tkachuk holds significant more value than Meier. I like Meier but Tkachuk has more impact on a game to game basis
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27 févr. à 8 h 18
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I don't think holtz n 2 firsts would get tkachuk


I don't think he is worth more. Holtz+1st is probably as high as I would go.
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And yet, Tkachuk holds significant more value than Meier. I like Meier but Tkachuk has more impact on a game to game basis


Any factual basis to that claim or just pure bias?
27 févr. à 8 h 20
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OTT would want Nemec, if that is a no, then no brady


No Nemec, no Brady

We're on same page.
27 févr. à 8 h 31
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Quoting: dgibb10
Any factual basis to that claim or just pure bias?


You're joking right? A little ironic saying I have bias...

Meier: 24 pts in 45 games, -24 on a team with a -11 differential. 121 shots, 64 hits, 16:39 ice time

Tkachuk 50 points in 54 games, -4 on a team with a -12 differential, 249 shots, 188 hits 18:41 ice time. Takes faceoffs at 55%

Lol Like wow, I can't believe how close they are. My bias is just oozing from me I guess.
To put it in perspective, he's on pace to have a worse season than Huberdeau last year... And that's saying something
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I'm still a big fan of Meier n believe he will turn it around if he plays rw but he isn't close to tkachuck
27 févr. à 9 h 1
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You're joking right? A little ironic saying I have bias...

Meier: 24 pts in 45 games, -24 on a team with a -11 differential. 121 shots, 64 hits, 16:39 ice time

Tkachuk 50 points in 54 games, -4 on a team with a -12 differential, 249 shots, 188 hits 18:41 ice time. Takes faceoffs at 55%

Lol Like wow, I can't believe how close they are. My bias is just oozing from me I guess.
To put it in perspective, he's on pace to have a worse season than Huberdeau last year... And that's saying something


I was talking about Sharks Meier. That is the player who was traded and so is a comparable for a trade

Meier at the time of trade:
134 games in last 2 years, 66 goals, 128 points, better defensive analytics than Tkachuk
Tkachuk
138 games 61 goals, 133 points in last 2 years
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I was talking about Sharks Meier. That is the player who was traded and so is a comparable for a trade

Meier at the time of trade:
134 games in last 2 years, 66 goals, 128 points, better defensive analytics than Tkachuk
Tkachuk
138 games 61 goals, 133 points in last 2 years


Quoting: dgibb10
I was talking about Sharks Meier. That is the player who was traded and so is a comparable for a trade


I thought u were talking about Meier since he's been on our team. I still believe in him. I would still take tkachuck over sharks Meier just bc he's more physical n stands up for his teammates
27 févr. à 9 h 9
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I thought u were talking about Meier since he's been on our team. I still believe in him. I would still take tkachuck over sharks Meier just bc he's more physical n stands up for his teammates


No I was talking about sharks Meier bc that was the guy who was traded and so that’s the basis of a comp. if Tkachuk hits the market he’ll go for a lot less than a lot of sens fans think.

He isn’t matthew, he isn’t Eichel. He’s a star, not a superstar
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No I was talking about sharks Meier bc that was the guy who was traded and so that’s the basis of a comp. if Tkachuk hits the market he’ll go for a lot less than a lot of sens fans think.

He isn’t matthew, he isn’t Eichel. He’s a star, not a superstar


I agree. Everyone always over values their players on here. I'll admit I'm even guilty of it when I see some of the trades
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I agree. Everyone always over values their players on here. I'll admit I'm even guilty of it when I see some of the trades


The meier trade is as good of a comp for brady as you'll EVER find.

2 physical, "grit", "intangibles" wingers with virtually identical production in the 2 years prior to being traded, with similar contractual costs (Meier 3 mill+8.8x4=38.2 mill over 5 years, Brady 8.2x5=41 mill over 5 years)
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The meier trade is as good of a comp for brady as you'll EVER find.

2 physical, "grit", "intangibles" wingers with virtually identical production in the 2 years prior to being traded, with similar contractual costs (Meier 3 mill+8.8x4=38.2 mill over 5 years, Brady 8.2x5=41 mill over 5 years)


One big difference is leadership. Meier does not seem like a leader or outspoken in the locker room
27 févr. à 10 h 20
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Quoting: dgibb10
The meier trade is as good of a comp for brady as you'll EVER find.

2 physical, "grit", "intangibles" wingers with virtually identical production in the 2 years prior to being traded, with similar contractual costs (Meier 3 mill+8.8x4=38.2 mill over 5 years, Brady 8.2x5=41 mill over 5 years)


Meier is a complimentary player. He was thought to be a driver. I thought Devils overpaid BUT, it was a good overpay because he should compliment Hughes, hasn't happened. Mukhamadullin was so underrated as a prospect. But hey revisionist history. I am still a big fan, though.

Even last year Tkachuk would have more value. He impacts the game more at a younger age. More physical, leader and intangibles. If you don't like it and call it bias, fine. But it's true
 
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