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Would you make this trade

Créé par: Amah21
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 24 févr. 2024
Publié: 24 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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  1. Beck, Owen
  2. Matheson, Michael
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
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Retain 50% salary for Matheson
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $73 260 416 $1 170 000 $4 035 000 $10 239 584 $
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DG/DD
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24 févr. à 23 h 16
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Really pointless… but no
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24 févr. à 23 h 17
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Habs fans are still doing Laf trades?
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24 févr. à 23 h 18
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Nope. Rangers are keeping Lafreniere and I'm okay with that.
(We can trade those assets, just not here.)
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24 févr. à 23 h 18
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Rangers reject without a 2nd thought
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24 févr. à 23 h 19
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No because they don’t need any of what you’re offering
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24 févr. à 23 h 32
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No chance pal
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24 févr. à 23 h 32
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barron + 2025 2nd for Kakko + 5th
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24 févr. à 23 h 49
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Habs easily decline Matheson is worth way more than Laf, if this was an actual deal it would be Laf + 2nd + cap offset for Matheson, Habs wouldn't be adding anything.
25 févr. à 0 h 2
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Rangers are not trading Laffy so its a moot point.
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25 févr. à 0 h 3
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Habs easily decline Matheson is worth way more than Laf, if this was an actual deal it would be Laf + 2nd + cap offset for Matheson, Habs wouldn't be adding anything.


If you don't think of the future at all!?
Easy pass
25 févr. à 7 h 54
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If you don't think of the future at all!?
Easy pass


Cup contending teams don't typically think about the future, it's why teams like Tampa and Toronto give away picks, prospects and young players like they are candy. Their goal is to win the cup now not in 5+ years, NYR are in that same position now, hence the reason I said Matheson has more value than Laf and that the Rags would be adding not the Habs. Now fit wise, I am not convinced the Rags need to make this sort of trade anyway.
25 févr. à 10 h 11
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Rangers reject without a 2nd thought


Habs add a 2nd thought (2025) to get it done!
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25 févr. à 14 h 13
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Cup contending teams don't typically think about the future, it's why teams like Tampa and Toronto give away picks, prospects and young players like they are candy. Their goal is to win the cup now not in 5+ years, NYR are in that same position now, hence the reason I said Matheson has more value than Laf and that the Rags would be adding not the Habs. Now fit wise, I am not convinced the Rags need to make this sort of trade anyway.


If we wanted Math we'd trade picks. Kakko is no through in at tdl lol
25 févr. à 15 h 20
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If we wanted Math we'd trade picks. Kakko is no through in at tdl lol


Wasn't saying you wouldn't, was just saying value wise right now, Matheson was worth more than Laf.
25 févr. à 15 h 29
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Wasn't saying you wouldn't, was just saying value wise right now, Matheson was worth more than Laf.


Not if you ask any nhl gm lol
25 févr. à 15 h 36
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Not if you ask any nhl gm lol


Seriously, you think a forward on pace for 50 ish points has more value than a 2-way D man on pace for 60 ish points? This is like saying Fox doesn't have more value than Slafkovsky. Would you trade Fox + Othmann + NYR 2025 1st for Slaf? I wouldn't, cause ist just as ridiculous as trading Matheson + Beck + 1st for Lafreniere
25 févr. à 15 h 41
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Seriously, you think a forward on pace for 50 ish points has more value than a 2-way D man on pace for 60 ish points? This is like saying Fox doesn't have more value than Slafkovsky. Would you trade Fox + Othmann + NYR 2025 1st for Slaf? I wouldn't, cause ist just as ridiculous as trading Matheson + Beck + 1st for Lafreniere


Get over it were not trading Laf and that wouldn't be the return any gm would want for him, period.
25 févr. à 16 h 6
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Get over it were not trading Laf and that wouldn't be the return any gm would want for him, period.


Try to understand what I was saying, if you want I can type it out letter for letter.

1. I was not saying NYR should be trading for Matheson.
2. I did not say Montreal would/should want to trade for Lafreniere.
3. I wasn't saying NYR should/would want to trade for Slafkovsky.
4. I did not say Montreal would/should be trading for Fox.

Is that clear enough or should I spell it out for you.

5. I was saying Matheson > Lafreniere right now especially to a team in win now mode like the Rags. Same as Fox has more value to a team like the Rags than Slafkovsky. Those comparisons are fairly accurate since Matheson and Fox are both D men on pace for 60 ish points and Laf and Slaf are young 1st OVA picks on pace for 50 ish points, it's not like I am comparing Matheson to Makar or Laf to Armia, the comps are pretty even.

to be crystal clear and just to help reiterate this, I DO NOT THINK MATHESON IS SOMEONE THE RAGS WOULD/SHOULD BE TRADING FOR. MY COMMENT WAS STRICTLY RELATED TO THE PLAYERS VALUES

Did you get that, do you understand?
25 févr. à 17 h 5
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Try to understand what I was saying, if you want I can type it out letter for letter.

1. I was not saying NYR should be trading for Matheson.
2. I did not say Montreal would/should want to trade for Lafreniere.
3. I wasn't saying NYR should/would want to trade for Slafkovsky.
4. I did not say Montreal would/should be trading for Fox.

Is that clear enough or should I spell it out for you.

5. I was saying Matheson > Lafreniere right now especially to a team in win now mode like the Rags. Same as Fox has more value to a team like the Rags than Slafkovsky. Those comparisons are fairly accurate since Matheson and Fox are both D men on pace for 60 ish points and Laf and Slaf are young 1st OVA picks on pace for 50 ish points, it's not like I am comparing Matheson to Makar or Laf to Armia, the comps are pretty even.

to be crystal clear and just to help reiterate this, I DO NOT THINK MATHESON IS SOMEONE THE RAGS WOULD/SHOULD BE TRADING FOR. MY COMMENT WAS STRICTLY RELATED TO THE PLAYERS VALUES

Did you get that, do you understand?


Calm down cookie lol.
Blah blah blah, insult insult lol.
Ask any nhl gm 1 vs 1...
Laf all day long.
We don't care how you unravel it...
25 févr. à 17 h 50
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Calm down cookie lol.
Blah blah blah, insult insult lol.
Ask any nhl gm 1 vs 1...
Laf all day long.
We don't care how you unravel it...


LMAO, I am calm,you are the one whose panties are in a bind thinking Laf is the next Gretzky. Not one NHL GM would give up a 60+ point D man for a 50 point forward, no matter how you spin it. Laf is simply not better than Matheson right now just as Slaf isn't better than Fox right now. If the price for Matheson was set at Laf + 2nd + cap offset then the Rags would gladly pay it if they felt like Matheson was the missing piece, the issue as I have said multiple times is that I am not convinced the Rags would be looking at a Matheson type of player with Fox already there. Now I know you are gonna **** and moan and make up crap cause you don't like the truth of the matter, so before you do just stop its getting old, we all know you don't think any Habs player can compare to any Rags player (even if as in this case they are all almost identical). Would you expect Slaf to return Fox + cap Othmann + 1st? Or would you expect Fox to return Slaf + Armia + 2nd? Who do you think holds more value Fox or Slafkovsky? Answer that honestly and you will have your answer as to who out of Matheson and Lafreniere holds more value.
25 févr. à 20 h 51
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LMAO, I am calm,you are the one whose panties are in a bind thinking Laf is the next Gretzky. Not one NHL GM would give up a 60+ point D man for a 50 point forward, no matter how you spin it. Laf is simply not better than Matheson right now just as Slaf isn't better than Fox right now. If the price for Matheson was set at Laf + 2nd + cap offset then the Rags would gladly pay it if they felt like Matheson was the missing piece, the issue as I have said multiple times is that I am not convinced the Rags would be looking at a Matheson type of player with Fox already there. Now I know you are gonna **** and moan and make up crap cause you don't like the truth of the matter, so before you do just stop its getting old, we all know you don't think any Habs player can compare to any Rags player (even if as in this case they are all almost identical). Would you expect Slaf to return Fox + cap Othmann + 1st? Or would you expect Fox to return Slaf + Armia + 2nd? Who do you think holds more value Fox or Slafkovsky? Answer that honestly and you will have your answer as to who out of Matheson and Lafreniere holds more value.


More comparable would be Lindgren for Slaf
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25 févr. à 21 h 10
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More comparable would be Lindgren for Slaf


LMAO, when did Lidgren score 60+ points? See I knew you wouldn't cause the value is not enough there are 3 points separating Fox from Matheson and 6 points separating Lafreniere from Slafkovsky but there are 32 points separating Matheson from Lindgren, so on what planet is that even a comparison?!
25 févr. à 21 h 22
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LMAO, when did Lidgren score 60+ points? See I knew you wouldn't cause the value is not enough there are 3 points separating Fox from Matheson and 6 points separating Lafreniere from Slafkovsky but there are 32 points separating Matheson from Lindgren, so on what planet is that even a comparison?!


Cute stats
26 févr. à 6 h 55
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Cute stats


I see, so now that you are proven wrong, you are just gonna resort to sarcasm. Thanks for admitting you know nothing of player evaluation
26 févr. à 13 h 29
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I see, so now that you are proven wrong, you are just gonna resort to sarcasm. Thanks for admitting you know nothing of player evaluation


You're right, stats only...
 
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