Gotta think one of Bourque or Lundkvist needs to come off that trade. One can justify one of the firsts for a fully-retained Tarasenko, but asking for more than a first, third, roster player, and one youngster for Chychrun is a stretch.

I'd be fine with them taking off Bourque lol. Honestly though, still feels like too much.

Hakanpää, Jani has no value for OTT he will be gone July 1st, he is there for stars cap reason only, thus ott would need a asset to take him

This is a poor take that far too many people adopt.

Using prorated values, Ottawa is sending more than $1.59M in actual cap back to Dallas. They only have LTIR room for up to $1.52M. The prorated value of just Lundkvist returning is $207k: the Stars don't have the necessary cap space to facilitate this trade without a UFA being returned in this deal or shed by other means. Hakanpaa is only owed a prorated $336k: if you believe Ottawa needs anything of value to be convinced to take on less than half a million dollars in owed money you're out to lunch. Seeing those numbers now, the Stars don't actually have enough cap space to make this deal work unless Ottawa takes back more or they find a way to scrape another $473k.

If the piece returned has term, then yes, the acquiring team should be owed an asset. On an expiring deal needed to facilitate the deal? Piss off.

Dallas is paying a bit too much, it should be :

Bourque, Mavrik
Hakanpää, Jani
2024 1st round pick (DAL)
2025 1st round pick (DAL)

Massive overpay by Dallas.

Ottawa could easily flip Hakanpaa too.

I can't see Dallas making this trade.
Looks way too much TBH.

Don't blame the poster, it's because some dummies created this whole narrative that every $ taken needs to be compensated.

Not saying the narrative didn't start before but last summer for example, Sens were tight to the cap and everyone thought they needed to "dump" someone to be able to sign Pinto (who was going to be suspended but we weren't aware of it yet). There was Mathieu Joseph and his 2.95 AAV who was a candidate to be moved as he didn't have a great season in 2022-23 (which was injury related). Even then, it wasn't like he was a big cap dump because he was still an useful player. The asking prices on this site were all over the place, some were asking a 1st+ to take 3 years x 2.95 AAV and a decent 3rd liner...

There was this Flyers fan that I haven't seen lately who was proposing to retain 50% on Scott Laughton (3.0 AAV) to take on Joseph and solve Ottawa's problem. He was asking a 1st + 1st + 2nd value (so (over) value for Laughton AND value to take on Joseph ANCHOR of a contract). lol so how is it possible for the bulk of the posters to understand the way "cap dumping" works when there's constantly super stupid stuff like that?

I was repeating that "it's not how it works" and that Joseph was a better player than Scott freaking Laughton anyway but this dude and a bunch of others were louder and my intervention didn't really work, except on a few maybe. That's the problem and it's the same thing in society, idiocracy is much louder than reasonable people.

For all my time spent on this site, yes in general people don't have a good grasp on how this cap dumping works and at the deadline it's just one aspect