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Créé par: ErikGudbranson
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 18 févr. 2024
Publié: 18 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Oui
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 60
Saison restante: 31%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 86 562 628 $
Transactions
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  1. Mikheyev, Ilya
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $82 732 798 $850 000 $0 $767 202 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 600 000 $500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
8 000 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $2 078 125 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 100 000 $343 750 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $2 296 875 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 850 000 $1 515 625 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $257 813 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 900 000 $593 750 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $1 546 875 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
816 667 $255 208 $
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $276 172 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 150 000 $359 375 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $2 453 125 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $1 375 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $1 562 500 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $937 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $1 875 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 800 000 $562 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 285 714 $1 339 286 $
DG
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 750 000 $1 171 875 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $242 188 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $1 015 625 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $781 250 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $242 188 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $242 188 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $242 188 $
AG
UFA - 2

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18 févr. à 14 h 45
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Samuelsson is done for the season. Buffalo isn't trading for futures. Mikheyev has no value
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18 févr. à 14 h 50
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Samuelsson is done for the season. Buffalo isn't trading for futures. Mikheyev has no value


How much value does Samuelson realistically have? Underperforming and signed long term. I should have made the trade for the off-season, plus the nucks need mik for the playoff run.
18 févr. à 14 h 57
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Quoting: ErikGudbranson
How much value does Samuelson realistically have? Underperforming and signed long term. I should have made the trade for the off-season, plus the nucks need mik for the playoff run.


He played the season hurt. Not the only Sabre that underperformed anyway. They aren't going to sell low on him
18 févr. à 15 h 56
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Sabres are elite
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The organization loves Samuelsson and rightfully so. Many Sabres fans on this site seem not to like him and try either trading him for scraps or having him play 3rd pairing instead of top 4. He's a legit shutdown D-man with size, physicality, and great skating ability. Invaluable to the Sabres team. He didn't play amazing this season but that doesn't mean he still isn't a key part of the future moving forward. Heck Dylan Cozens has had a down year but he's still key. Samuelsson isn't on the team for offense, I could care less if he only puts up 5 points in 82 games. He's there to block shots, shutdown the other teams' offensive dynamos, and be a great leader on and off the ice.
18 févr. à 16 h 39
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Much like mittelstadt, Samuelsson isn't available for futures.
18 févr. à 20 h 53
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Sabres are not doing a trade with the Canucks.
No thanks.
18 févr. à 21 h 44
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Quoting: Skyraider112
The organization loves Samuelsson and rightfully so. Many Sabres fans on this site seem not to like him and try either trading him for scraps or having him play 3rd pairing instead of top 4. He's a legit shutdown D-man with size, physicality, and great skating ability. Invaluable to the Sabres team. He didn't play amazing this season but that doesn't mean he still isn't a key part of the future moving forward. Heck Dylan Cozens has had a down year but he's still key. Samuelsson isn't on the team for offense, I could care less if he only puts up 5 points in 82 games. He's there to block shots, shutdown the other teams' offensive dynamos, and be a great leader on and off the ice.


The problem isn't his offense, it's that he doesn't do any of the stuff you listed, but he gets all the credit for the work of whatever pair he's on. Like for some reason, its impossible for Sabres fans (not saying you just generalizing a sample on say twitter) to attribute defensive work to Power, because he doesnt hit. Or Dahlin, because he turns the puck over a lot. But in game, he's consistently torched for speed by the opposing teams top players. And his skill with the puck is unfortunately abysmal. I don't even mean offensively, like the puck skills you'd want a defensive d-man to have (stretch pass, d to d etc.) . Dahlin's expected goals against per 60 both last year and this year were noticeably better with Jokiharju than Samuelsson. Which doesn't say much other than it's pretty clear that the top pair will go as far as Dahlin takes it, regardless of the perceived reputation his partner has.

There are probably little things he does well but not enough to make up for everything else and not enough to warrant his cap hit. Smart teams are able to add defense only players pretty regularly at bargain prices through free agency or trade. Dedicating a long term contract to one never made any sense and if they can find someone who would take him off their hands, and send someone/thing helpful back, that would be very ideal.
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26 févr. à 16 h 48
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Quoting: Stadel
The problem isn't his offense, it's that he doesn't do any of the stuff you listed, but he gets all the credit for the work of whatever pair he's on. Like for some reason, its impossible for Sabres fans (not saying you just generalizing a sample on say twitter) to attribute defensive work to Power, because he doesnt hit. Or Dahlin, because he turns the puck over a lot. But in game, he's consistently torched for speed by the opposing teams top players. And his skill with the puck is unfortunately abysmal. I don't even mean offensively, like the puck skills you'd want a defensive d-man to have (stretch pass, d to d etc.) . Dahlin's expected goals against per 60 both last year and this year were noticeably better with Jokiharju than Samuelsson. Which doesn't say much other than it's pretty clear that the top pair will go as far as Dahlin takes it, regardless of the perceived reputation his partner has.

There are probably little things he does well but not enough to make up for everything else and not enough to warrant his cap hit. Smart teams are able to add defense only players pretty regularly at bargain prices through free agency or trade. Dedicating a long term contract to one never made any sense and if they can find someone who would take him off their hands, and send someone/thing helpful back, that would be very ideal.


https://www.capfriendly.com/scouting-reports/report/mattias-samuelsson-70915

Idk who writes these scouting reports but I'm not the only one who sees his value.
 
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