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Créé par: Kodiak51
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 16 févr. 2024
Publié: 16 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
NYR
  1. Henrique, Adam (2 912 500 $ retained)
  2. Vatrano, Frank
ANA
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Korczak, Ryder
  3. Robertson, Matthew
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (DAL)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (NYR)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $80 097 833 $610 892 $882 500 $3 402 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
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2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
-1 456 250 $-1 456 250 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
846 667 $846 667 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 872 000 $3 872 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
825 000 $825 000 $ (Bonis de performance100 000 $$100K)
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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812 500 $812 500 $
DG
RFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 437 500 $4 437 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
820 000 $820 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2

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16 févr. à 11 h 51
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Yea sure — take Vatrano out of the deal

We have no need for LHD or a C really either
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16 févr. à 11 h 51
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Getting rid of Kakko would be stupid lol
16 févr. à 12 h 10
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Let's be incredibly charitable and say Kakko plus the second covers Henrique.

We're not trading vatrano for the rest of that, we'd want a first or a high end prospect at a position of need, or we just keep him.
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16 févr. à 12 h 24
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Echoing my two esteemed friends, Henrique with full retention for Kakko and the second is a reasonable idea. We don't really need any more center depth and Robertson is a LhD, and the only justification for trading Frankie Vatrano would be to get a first out of the deal.
16 févr. à 12 h 29
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Let's be incredibly charitable and say Kakko plus the second covers Henrique.

We're not trading vatrano for the rest of that, we'd want a first or a high end prospect at a position of need, or we just keep him.


I think we need to be more realistic here. Is this enough for those 2 Ducks? No. But I don’t think it’s off as much as we’re suggesting.

Henrique (retained) = ‘24 1st value (in this year’s market based on Monahan/Lindholm)
Vatrano = 1st + good prospect

Kakko <= contender’s 1st (I’d value the first more, but barely)
Kakko >> contender’s 2nd (he’s 23, defensively sound, and had a 40 point NHL season last year as a prior 2nd OA pick)

There’s no way we could assume that we’d get Kakko and a 2 for Henrique (almost a 1st and 2nd in value). Henrique for Kakko straight up should be relatively fair value (especially considering Kakko’s age and RFA status)

Having said that, the rest of that package doesn’t come close to Vatrano. So this should be stripped out
16 févr. à 12 h 56
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I think we need to be more realistic here. Is this enough for those 2 Ducks? No. But I don’t think it’s off as much as we’re suggesting.

Henrique (retained) = ‘24 1st value (in this year’s market based on Monahan/Lindholm)
Vatrano = 1st + good prospect

Kakko <= contender’s 1st (I’d value the first more, but barely)
Kakko >> contender’s 2nd (he’s 23, defensively sound, and had a 40 point NHL season last year as a prior 2nd OA pick)

There’s no way we could assume that we’d get Kakko and a 2 for Henrique (almost a 1st and 2nd in value). Henrique for Kakko straight up should be relatively fair value (especially considering Kakko’s age and RFA status)

Having said that, the rest of that package doesn’t come close to Vatrano. So this should be stripped out


Our fundamental misalignment is Kakkos value. He's closing in on 300 NHL games played and the best he has managed to accomplish is a single 40 point season. None of his other seasons were even on pace for 40, they were down on the 30s or 20s. For me, he's Puljujarvi 2.0, he's worth taking a flyer on, not worth paying much for. I personally question if the Rangers even QO him this off-season after having such a huge slump from his previous meager totals.

Maybe we can rehabilitate his career, but it's not like the guy hasn't been surrounded by star talent, and he's been through three head coaches, none of which seem to have much confidence in him. I don't place any stalk in his draft position anymore, I don't know that there's much upside left there. At best he turns into a prime Jakob Silfverberg if we can fully rehab him.
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16 févr. à 15 h 35
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Our fundamental misalignment is Kakkos value. He's closing in on 300 NHL games played and the best he has managed to accomplish is a single 40 point season. None of his other seasons were even on pace for 40, they were down on the 30s or 20s. For me, he's Puljujarvi 2.0, he's worth taking a flyer on, not worth paying much for. I personally question if the Rangers even QO him this off-season after having such a huge slump from his previous meager totals.

Maybe we can rehabilitate his career, but it's not like the guy hasn't been surrounded by star talent, and he's been through three head coaches, none of which seem to have much confidence in him. I don't place any stalk in his draft position anymore, I don't know that there's much upside left there. At best he turns into a prime Jakob Silfverberg if we can fully rehab him.


I hear that. But with a pretty responsible 2 way game, he’s already a reliable 3RW at 23 years old. Draft capital notwithstanding, there’s value in that. I’d absolutely prefer him to a contender’s 2nd round pick (which I believe is like a 1 in 3 shot of becoming an NHL player at all)
 
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