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Dealing with St Louis

Créé par: Rodzikhockey93
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 14 févr. 2024
Publié: 14 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TOR
  1. Parayko, Colton
  2. Toropchenko, Alexey
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (STL)
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TOR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (COL)
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TOR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (VGK)
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14 févr. à 10 h 7
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Still no.
noted a aimé ceci.
14 févr. à 10 h 36
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You’re not getting Parayko for that let alone other pieces. Give up already
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14 févr. à 10 h 49
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Leafs are so much better off next season with Minten and Niemela in the AHL, the first and 6.25m in cap space to sign a Dman than one 30 year old with six years left on his contract.
14 févr. à 10 h 58
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No
14 févr. à 11 h 12
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Leafs are so much better off next season with Minten and Niemela in the AHL, the first and 6.25m in cap space to sign a Dman than one 30 year old with six years left on his contract.


saving this for early May when the Leafs are out of the playoffs again...
14 févr. à 11 h 26
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You are either pandering to the 3 above champions of Blues Homers or you are not at all up to speed on Parayko's effectiveness. This is a massive massive overpay for a guy who very clearly isn't a #1 defenceman. He's not a #2. He's more like a #4 on a contender. Maybe a #3. But Parayko has only been really good when Bouwmeester and Pietrangelo where still good and on the Blues. Since then, he's been for long stretches, average or below average with some slightly above average play this year. He's not worth anywhere close to this, especially when you consider term and cap hit.
14 févr. à 11 h 36
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You are either pandering to the 3 above champions of Blues Homers or you are not at all up to speed on Parayko's effectiveness. This is a massive massive overpay for a guy who very clearly isn't a #1 defenceman. He's not a #2. He's more like a #4 on a contender. Maybe a #3. But Parayko has only been really good when Bouwmeester and Pietrangelo where still good and on the Blues. Since then, he's been for long stretches, average or below average with some slightly above average play this year. He's not worth anywhere close to this, especially when you consider term and cap hit.


Speaking of homers - exhibit A - RipNasty
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14 févr. à 12 h 50
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Speaking of homers - exhibit A - RipNasty


I honestly don't even know if he's a homer. It seems like he never actually talks about his own team. He just makes up long, clueless, aggressive monologues about other teams and pretends it's an established fact and that everyone who doesn't go along is a big beer goggles dummy. That's literally all I know about him. I don't recall any of his commentary about the Leafs. I have no idea who he thinks should be traded or what he thinks their prospects are worth. No clue.
14 févr. à 15 h 4
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saving this for early May when the Leafs are out of the playoffs again...


Might be true. But save it for May when Blues are out of the playoffs if they make it all.. Again, for this season and the next six year, does Parayko really help the Leafs.
14 févr. à 16 h 36
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Speaking of homers - exhibit A - RipNasty


Because I understand Parayko isn't half as good as you guys say he is? Because what have I said that can possibly constitute being a homer of anything? Show me where I take a leaf asset and blow it way out of proportion?
14 févr. à 16 h 39
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Might be true. But save it for May when Blues are out of the playoffs if they make it all.. Again, for this season and the next six year, does Parayko really help the Leafs.


He’d immediately be your best defensive dman. I don’t care anymore about you guys.
14 févr. à 16 h 43
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Because I understand Parayko isn't half as good as you guys say he is? Because what have I said that can possibly constitute being a homer of anything? Show me where I take a leaf asset and blow it way out of proportion?


If he’s not good, then why are they so close to the Leafs in the standings? I’m sure you say Binnington sucks too, so please explain to me why a mostly not good team is where it is in the standings if Parayko plays the most minutes on the team and the majority of said team is average or below besides a few Thomas, Kyrou, Buch…
14 févr. à 16 h 50
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If he’s not good, then why are they so close to the Leafs in the standings? I’m sure you say Binnington sucks too, so please explain to me why a mostly not good team is where it is in the standings if Parayko plays the most minutes on the team and the majority of said team is average or below besides a few Thomas, Kyrou, Buch…


TO isn't as good of a team as they should be. Part of it is the coach and the rest management. We all knew this blueline needed additions and Treliving picked Klingberg. But for the purposes of this conversation, Giving up all these assets for Parayko is wasteful and silly. He's not that good. He's a 2nd pair defenceman in a perfect world and yon don't pay that 6.5 million. Especially until the age of 37 or whatever he's signed to.

As for St Louis' record, never trust a heater when your team has been mediocre for most of the season and last 2. It's a mirage. They just lost 4-1 to a team that has a paper thin blueline and a bad bottom 6.
14 févr. à 17 h 53
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TO isn't as good of a team as they should be. Part of it is the coach and the rest management. We all knew this blueline needed additions and Treliving picked Klingberg. But for the purposes of this conversation, Giving up all these assets for Parayko is wasteful and silly. He's not that good. He's a 2nd pair defenceman in a perfect world and yon don't pay that 6.5 million. Especially until the age of 37 or whatever he's signed to.

As for St Louis' record, never trust a heater when your team has been mediocre for most of the season and last 2. It's a mirage. They just lost 4-1 to a team that has a paper thin blueline and a bad bottom 6.


I don’t think Parayko is a number 1. I also don’t think Morgan Reilly is a number 1. If Parayko was on the Leafs, you would be a lot better currently. Blues aren’t trading him so none of this matters.
14 févr. à 18 h 39
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I don’t think Parayko is a number 1. I also don’t think Morgan Reilly is a number 1. If Parayko was on the Leafs, you would be a lot better currently. Blues aren’t trading him so none of this matters.


Nope the Leafs would be the same. Parayko isn't a difference maker, he'd either play shot gun to Rielly and look better than he does in St Louis but it would be entirely due to Rielly being a better player. But it wouldn't make TO any closer to being a contender. They need either an actual top pair RD and a true shutdown LD who can help Liljegren reach his potential. Once again Parayko isn't either of those. For a very minor improvement, you shouldn't be spending a 1st along with Minten and Niemela plus the rest. Especially considering the term and cap hit are excessive for a guy who likely is best situated on the 2nd pair with a better player.
14 févr. à 18 h 42
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Nope the Leafs would be the same. Parayko isn't a difference maker, he'd either play shot gun to Rielly and look better than he does in St Louis but it would be entirely due to Rielly being a better player. But it wouldn't make TO any closer to being a contender. They need either an actual top pair RD and a true shutdown LD who can help Liljegren reach his potential. Once again Parayko isn't either of those. For a very minor improvement, you shouldn't be spending a 1st along with Minten and Niemela plus the rest. Especially considering the term and cap hit are excessive for a guy who likely is best situated on the 2nd pair with a better player.


Can’t wait to see you cry when Parayko is on team Canada and Rielly isn’t.
14 févr. à 18 h 44
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Can’t wait to see you cry when Parayko is on team Canada and Rielly isn’t.


Because TO is still in the playoffs and St Louis didn't make it? Cool story.
14 févr. à 18 h 52
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Because TO is still in the playoffs and St Louis didn't make it? Cool story.


Nope - for 4 Nations Face-Off and Olympics
14 févr. à 19 h 0
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Nope - for 4 Nations Face-Off and Olympics


The Olympics? Get real he's not remotely close to make team Canada's best 4 RD. This is just silly now.
14 févr. à 19 h 2
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The Olympics? Get real he's not remotely close to make team Canada's best 4 RD. This is just silly now.


Well gonna be GM of team loves him, and he knows more about hockey than you so….
14 févr. à 19 h 2
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Well gonna be GM of team loves him, and he knows more about hockey than you so….


You guys are everything you call leaf fans. Hopeless homers.
14 févr. à 19 h 6
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You guys are everything you call leaf fans. Hopeless homers.


Ok. This is the sort of thing you say when you don’t have a decent comeback and know I might be right.
14 févr. à 21 h 4
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Ok. This is the sort of thing you say when you don’t have a decent comeback and know I might be right.


Lol, the irony. The best part is you are incapable of seeing it
 
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