Leafs aren’t paying to dump kampf lmao

Why not?

Cause he’s 400k overpaid but he’s exactly what we need for a 4th line centre, besides kampf isn’t waiving for Chicago if anything the leafs half retain on him and get a 3rd from whatever team he waives for

I don’t see the Hawks having an interest in three more seasons of Kämpf at $2.4m per, you can get an equally productive 4th line centre for a much better deal then that.

3rd and a 5th though

Hawks don't need more bottom 6 players. They're overloaded with those already. They need to fill out their forward group with a couple of offensive style players.

That is still $5.8M in salary owed. That is probably going to cost more.

Interesting! You have included Cowan on the roster, but not Minten. Hmmmm…..

I would not be giving Liljegren 4.5m that would be like Zaitsev all over again.
Forsling will get more than 5m and it wont be from the leafs

Timothy Liljegren is not a 4.5 mill defenseman. Ethan Bear just signed for 2+mill,
Kandre Miller signed for 3.8mill, Will Borgen for 2.7mill. All of these players are at least on par with what Liljegren brings. Im ok with the player and what he brings but hes a #5 #6 or #7 on any good NHL defence core. Lets ask what has the player done to separate himself from the player he was last season. Hes done very little with an ice time and role increase and has been dialed back on all fronts recently. On overdrive radio yesterday they have Rielly Brodie McCabe and Benoit as guys that are staying in the lineup moving fwd and into the deadline. Giordano and Liljegren are where the improvement is going to be. Liljegren could find himself in the press box much like last year and Leaf fans want to pay him 4.5 MILL WITH TERM. A player that brings what Liljegren currently brings can be found every offseason in the UFA market.

AFP Analytics Contract Predictions

Maybe, but those comparisons will soon be outdated. AFP Analytics has him at $3.35M x 3 years, and I think that is conservative. With the pandemic escrow being paid off and the cap going up, the squeeze on player AAV's will likely be easing up significantly. Considering his age and performance, he could maybe get something in that $3-5M range. He has been more solid than TOR fans give him credit for, and he is still pretty young.

Liljegren will make the same percentage of the cap that he currently makes as he has done nothing to out play his current evaluation. So if the cap is 88mill his value would be around 2.5 mill give or take. He does not deserve a raise that is performance based. Any team that gives this player over 3 million dollars is asking for issues.

Hawks got a 2nd round pick to take two seasons of Dickinson at $2.65m and they managed to send Riley Stillman at $1.15m the other way. Dickinson is a much better player than Kampf.

3rd and 5th round picks misses the mark.

Doesn't need to be the hawks

Ok then give the extra money from the lily overpayment to forsling

Minten getting traded

I mean... His baseline stats are pretty solid, as are his advanced metrics, and they have been steadily improving, all at only only 24 years old. I'm not sure what you want from the kid. I guess it really depends how TOR projects him and if they would rather lock him up with term now or give him a bridge deal. If it's a 1 or 2 year bridge deal, sure $2.5 would probably do the trick. But anything more, and he should be getting an AAV the reflects his development curve and career projection, which both say he is going to be a solid NHL dman for years to come.

I think you are conflating TOR's cap situation and overall team performance with individual player values and performance. Also, him not being the kind of player TOR needs right now doesn't mean he isn't a good player. He could easily make that kind of money and be perfectly fine in a situation that is more suitable to his skillset. Speaking as if he is some awful bust is being way overblown. There is definitely value there that can be leveraged via trade, at the very least, if TOR doesn't want to keep him around.

I never said bust. I said I ike the player. I usually give defenceman 300 NHL games to show who they are and are going to be moving fwd. Liljegren will hit 300 next year. Entering the last 3rd of that 100game evaluation he has been becoming an everyday NHL player in a bottom 6 role. With sheltered mins is showing ok avanced numbers but has yet to be trusted by the coach for any length of time. Unless something drastic happens in his development, which it can he is projecting to be a bottom pair NHL player. That by no means is a bust, getting regular mins out of a late 1st round pick is what teams want.
At this point 100% accurate to say hes 24 years of age and approaching the he is what he is stage of his development. Projecting him to be much more than hes already is would be irresponsible.

I think TOR's problem is coaching and roster structure. What Keefe wants to do really only works in the regular season, and even then it's inconsistent enough to cause mass frustrations. But it definitely doesn't work in the playoffs and isn't conducive in the least bit to letting dmen play to their strengths and be defensemen. I think there is a very good chance if Lily goes to another team, he would have a ton of success and solidify himself in a top 4 role.

I have a feeling that, even if TOR went out and got a guy like Tanev, he wouldn't do well.

Why would Chicago ever agree to this? lol upgrade the picks

Bottom line is the team isnt very good. This year Matthews taveres marner willy are all 1st line players as expected. Knies , Bertuzzi Domi and Jarnkrok are all putting up 4th line numbers most nights and everyone else is basically NHL/AHL bubble players. The Defence has Rielly top pair and everyone else is a number 4/5/6/7 on any given night. Its hard to coach an island of misfit Toys and even harder to Build the team u want as a gm with barley an offseason under his belt. In my opion the Leafs need to keep assets this year, add veteran inexpensive players on expireing deals, make the playoffs and see what happens. Then give Treliving an offseason to build his team.

I think a new coach could go a long way at getting the best out of this team as it is currently constructed. Though, I also fear it might be too late. They've been playing together so long under Keefe that there might be culture conflicts that are hard to break. But they don't suck, they just aren't playing the right way.