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Avs idea 24-25

Créé par: ht42
Équipe: 2024-25 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 4 févr. 2024
Publié: 4 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 285 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
33 185 000 $
77 185 000 $
1900 000 $
21 500 000 $
1775 000 $
1850 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Evans, Jake
  2. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (DET)
MTL
  1. Johansen, Ryan
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (COL)
2.
COL
  1. Välimäki, Juuso [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Girard, Samuel
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (COL)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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Logo de COL
Logo de DET
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
2026
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Logo de COL
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2287 700 000 $87 671 667 $0 $0 $28 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 185 000 $3 185 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
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12 600 000 $12 600 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
7 185 000 $7 185 000 $
C, AD
UFA
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA
1 285 000 $1 285 000 $
DG
RFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA

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4 févr. à 11 h 29
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I like the first trade but don't love the second. I'd rather keep Girard over Drouin.

Kudos for something outside the box though.
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Why would the habs give up the two most valuable players in the trade downgrade a 4th tp a 5th and eat another year of johansens deal for a 2nd?
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Rj and a 2nd for evans, im not sure why montreal is paying you to take Kovacevic tho
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Easy no from Habs.
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I like the first trade but don't love the second. I'd rather keep Girard over Drouin.

Kudos for something outside the box though.


Drouin didn't have a good fit with Colorado ?
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Why would the habs give up the two most valuable players in the trade downgrade a 4th tp a 5th and eat another year of johansens deal for a 2nd?


As a Habs fan, I don't think that Evans and Kovacevic have much value that we can think.

A 4th round pick for Kovacevic can be a maximum price, especially because he was healty scratch multiple times this season.

For Evans, only a 3rd round pick for a 4th line centerman can be a great price for him.
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Rj and a 2nd for evans, im not sure why montreal is paying you to take Kovacevic tho


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Easy no from Habs.


Something that I can change is put out the 4th round pick and add a 6th round pick.

But receiving a 2nd round pick for Evans and Kovacevic, and taking a guess with Johansen, i'm really open with that because we likely gonna need a deep center line for the next season.
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Something that I can change is put out the 4th round pick and add a 6th round pick.

But receiving a 2nd round pick for Evans and Kovacevic, and taking a guess with Johansen, i'm really open with that because we likely gonna need a deep center line for the next season.


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Something that I can change is put out the 4th round pick and add a 6th round pick.

But receiving a 2nd round pick for Evans and Kovacevic, and taking a guess with Johansen, i'm really open with that because we likely gonna need a deep center line for the next season.


Quoting: ht42
Something that I can change is put out the 4th round pick and add a 6th round pick.

But receiving a 2nd round pick for Evans and Kovacevic, and taking a guess with Johansen, i'm really open with that because we likely gonna need a deep center line for the next season.


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Something that I can change is put out the 4th round pick and add a 6th round pick.

But receiving a 2nd round pick for Evans and Kovacevic, and taking a guess with Johansen, i'm really open with that because we likely gonna need a deep center line for the next season.


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Something that I can change is put out the 4th round pick and add a 6th round pick.

But receiving a 2nd round pick for Evans and Kovacevic, and taking a guess with Johansen, i'm really open with that because we likely gonna need a deep center line for the next season.


The C's under contract for next season are suzuki, dach, newhook, evans , dvorak. Not sure how if any RJ is an upgrade
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The C's under contract for next season are suzuki, dach, newhook, evans , dvorak. Not sure how if any RJ is an upgrade


In my opinion :

Suzuki : C1
Dach : C2
Newhook : BIG mistake to play him at C. He is WAY better as a LW
Dvorack : likely gonna be buyout or being traded away....
Evans : Better fit with Colorado than Johansen.

Also, I see Montreal searching for another 3C. Maybe a Sean Monahan come back or maybe try with a player like Kuznetsov (who is likely another cap dump....).

So, my idea about our centermans line for the next season :

C1 : Suzuki
C2 : Dach
C3 : Kuznetsov / Monahan
C4 : Johansen
4 févr. à 13 h 3
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In my opinion :

Suzuki : C1
Dach : C2
Newhook : BIG mistake to play him at C. He is WAY better as a LW
Dvorack : likely gonna be buyout or being traded away....
Evans : Better fit with Colorado than Johansen.

Also, I see Montreal searching for another 3C. Maybe a Sean Monahan come back or maybe try with a player like Kuznetsov (who is likely another cap dump....).

So, my idea about our centermans line for the next season :

C1 : Suzuki
C2 : Dach
C3 : Kuznetsov / Monahan
C4 : Johansen


Which one of this C's play on the PK ?

Im the first one on this website who came up with the evans for RJ, and getting a 2nd in return for the cap hit is more than fair, packaging Kovacevic at a lost as part of he deal is pointless from the habs point of view in its actually bad asset management
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Which one of this C's play on the PK ?

Im the first one on this website who came up with the evans for RJ, and getting a 2nd in return for the cap hit is more than fair, packaging Kovacevic at a lost as part of he deal is pointless from the habs point of view in its actually bad asset management


Suzuki, Dach and Johansen all can playing on the PK....... Also, Kuznetsov have played on the PK few times I belive.

About the RJ and Evans trade, I haved also the same type of idea, but I remember that your trade proposition was realistic, but maybe not enough to convice Avs fans....
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In my opinion :

Suzuki : C1
Dach : C2
Newhook : BIG mistake to play him at C. He is WAY better as a LW
Dvorack : likely gonna be buyout or being traded away....
Evans : Better fit with Colorado than Johansen.

Also, I see Montreal searching for another 3C. Maybe a Sean Monahan come back or maybe try with a player like Kuznetsov (who is likely another cap dump....).

So, my idea about our centermans line for the next season :

C1 : Suzuki
C2 : Dach
C3 : Kuznetsov / Monahan
C4 : Johansen


That’s one expensive bottom six. Why exactly wouldn’t we just keep Evans over trading him for a $4 million 4c?
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Drouin didn't have a good fit with Colorado ?


He fits well. If Landeskog can't return, then I think they keep him. It seems like Landy is coming back though, which means no Lindholm and a choice between Drouin, one of Manson/Girard, and perhaps some other UFA.

And if I'm forced to get rid of someone in that scenario, it would be Drouin, Manson, and lastly Girard.
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That’s one expensive bottom six. Why exactly wouldn’t we just keep Evans over trading him for a $4 million 4c?


For 2 reasons.

1st reason : Montreal will likely gonna try to trade Evans, but they know that they will not gonna receive more than a 3rd round pick. But, a team like the Avs, who have somes massives issues about their centermans (especially for their 2nd and 4th line), Evans can be a great pick up for them. Also, Johansen didn't really make the job with the Avs and he take a lot on their cap space. So, Montreal can take the opportunity to searching a 2026 2nd round pick (who is a great pick for a trade for futhermore playoffs assets) and taking a guess with Johansen. Also, that's can open few millions to the Avs for signing a real 2nd line centerman (like Lindholm).

2nd reason : Personally, even that I love Evans, I think Johansen can have the same type of impact than Monahan (but maybe not at the same level), and he is a player who can more contribute on the points sheet than Evans. Also, Montreal have the cap space for Johansen and Evans is a player who will gonna fit more in the Avs system (like Lehkonen).
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For 2 reasons.

1st reason : Montreal will likely gonna try to trade Evans, but they know that they will not gonna receive more than a 3rd round pick. But, a team like the Avs, who have somes massives issues about their centermans (especially for their 2nd and 4th line), Evans can be a great pick up for them. Also, Johansen didn't really make the job with the Avs and he take a lot on their cap space. So, Montreal can take the opportunity to searching a 2026 2nd round pick (who is a great pick for a trade for futhermore playoffs assets) and taking a guess with Johansen. Also, that's can open few millions to the Avs for signing a real 2nd line centerman (like Lindholm).

2nd reason : Personally, even that I love Evans, I think Johansen can have the same type of impact than Monahan (but maybe not at the same level), and he is a player who can more contribute on the points sheet than Evans. Also, Montreal have the cap space for Johansen and Evans is a player who will gonna fit more in the Avs system (like Lehkonen).


But why trade Evans at all? I’m down with MTL taking Ryjo for a price, I just see no reason to trade Evans. I actually like Ryjo or Faksa as targets at the TDL. The Avs and Stars are both cap strapped contenders that Montreal could take advantage of and get some center depth to get us through the rest of this season. Then there is the possibility of returning an asset next TDL through retaining on either one.
 
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