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loading up on the 2024 draft

Créé par: MTLaveragefan
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 2 févr. 2024
Publié: 2 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
too many condition on this pick - just trade it at this point instead of waiting until 2026 for 1st round pick.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $74 200 416 $1 170 000 $3 977 500 $9 299 584 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 2
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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2 févr. à 13 h 53
#1
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thats a neat idea.

we could also target our own 2nd back from the jets
2 févr. à 14 h 0
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Personally, I would not do this trade and keep the picks as they are.
Having 2 x 1st round picks in 2024 AND 2025, is great leverage.
2 févr. à 14 h 8
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Sooooo smart , lets trade a potential top 5 pick just because i don't understand all the conditions it comes with
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2 févr. à 14 h 9
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Quoting: SMH
Sooooo smart , lets trade a potential top 5 pick just because i don't understand all the conditions it comes with


it's top 10 protected up to 2026. So If you want to wait for 2026 sure. And even then - A LOT can happen between now and then.
2 févr. à 14 h 21
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That’s not a good idea imo
CGY’s pick is getting more and more valuable.

This pick depends a lot on both Panthers and Calgary next year. Panthers will be in a tough situation this offseason with all their UFAs.

Panthers : Playoffs // Flames : Not Top 10 pick -> Better pick between FLA and CGY (>= 1st VAN 2024)

Panthers: Playoffs // Flames: Top 10 pick -> FLA pick (= 1st VAN 2024)

Panthers: No playoffs // Flames: Not top 10 pick -> 1st CGY + mid round pick (>= 1st VAN 2024)

Panthers: No playoffs // Flames: 2-10 overall -> 1st CGY (>>> 1st VAN 2024)

Panthers: No playoffs // Flames: 1st overall -> 1st CGY 2026 UNPROTECTED + mid round pick ( >> 1st VAN)

Considering that 2025 seems to be a better draft and considering that there is potentially a top 10 pick behind the conditions, I would keep this pick till next TDL.
2 févr. à 14 h 23
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
it's top 10 protected up to 2026. So If you want to wait for 2026 sure. And even then - A LOT can happen between now and then.

That’s false and more complicated than that. Check my last post.
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2 févr. à 14 h 24
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Too many conditions making it a far greater pick?
To clear it up, the whole condition tree is because Florida's pick lottery protected so as we all know this likely ain't happening cause they're good. Now removing this "If Calgary doesn't receive Florida's pick" shenaneegans, the pick we receive is confirmed in 2025 and it'll be Florida's pick except if Calgary's pick isn't top 10, then it's the better of the two. (That's how I see it)
I wouldn't trade what's likely going to be a pick between 11-20 (Calgary's likely a bubble team next year) for a 28-32 pick and the 41th selection, not enough value there. I'd need their 1st this year and Florida's 1st next year.
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2 févr. à 14 h 33
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Quoting: ColonelX
Too many conditions making it a far greater pick?
To clear it up, the whole condition tree is because Florida's pick lottery protected so as we all know this likely ain't happening cause they're good. Now removing this "If Calgary doesn't receive Florida's pick" shenaneegans, the pick we receive is confirmed in 2025 and it'll be Florida's pick except if Calgary's pick isn't top 10, then it's the better of the two. (That's how I see it)
I wouldn't trade what's likely going to be a pick between 11-20 (Calgary's likely a bubble team next year) for a 28-32 pick and the 41th selection, not enough value there. I'd need their 1st this year and Florida's 1st next year.


Wouldn’t remove it too quickly. FLA will have a tough offseason with all their UFA’s. Everybody tought that FLA 1st pick in 2023 would be low when Kent made the Chariot trade. At the end of last year season, everybody was closely watching if FLA would miss the playoffs. Next year is a new season and a lot of things can happen.
2 févr. à 14 h 49
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Keep Calgary pick, could be between 11-20 overall in 2025
2 févr. à 15 h 14
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What if that pick becomes 2nd overall in 2025? Hughes look really stupid.
2 févr. à 17 h 30
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Quoting: Jobob77
Wouldn’t remove it too quickly. FLA will have a tough offseason with all their UFA’s. Everybody tought that FLA 1st pick in 2023 would be low when Kent made the Chariot trade. At the end of last year season, everybody was closely watching if FLA would miss the playoffs. Next year is a new season and a lot of things can happen.

Fair but the condition is that Florida wins the lottery, we're talking about a small percentage of a small percentage.
2 févr. à 17 h 42
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Quoting: ColonelX
Fair but the condition is that Florida wins the lottery, we're talking about a small percentage of a small percentage.


The pick is lottery protected. This generally means that if the pick is top 16, the pick is protected. Basically, if the panthers miss the playoffs they’ll transfer their 2026 pick. They don’t have to win the lottery, just participate in the lottery.
 
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