Parise Frost Kahkonen

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Créé par: Anus_McLeod

Équipe: 2023-24 Avalanche du Colorado

Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2024

Publié: 26 janv. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

First, from Philly's perspective, I could understand if Frost wasn't available for anything other than a young C. There have been ups and downs, and I'm not really sure what the deal is. Tough to get a read.

From Colorado's perspective, I think this is arguably an overpay for Frost. However, it really helps the cap situation and holds onto the team's most important futures, while hopefully plugging their biggest hole. I would certainly offer Behrens and a 2nd before this, but that might not get it done.

For Kahkonen, I feel like the price could be low since a lot of teams will ask for retention, and SJ only has one slot remaining. Happy to send Prosvetov back their way too if needed.

Anyway, if I'm off here lmk!

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Parise, Zach		1	800 000 $

Transactions

COL

Frost, Morgan
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (PHI)

PHI

Johansen, Ryan
Olausson, Oskar
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)

COL

Kähkönen, Kaapo

SJS

Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	81 975 000 $	637 500 $	0 $	1 525 000 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Drouin, Jonathan 825 000 $825 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	MacKinnon, Nathan 12 600 000 $12 600 000 $ C NMC UFA - 8	Rantanen, Mikko 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ AD, C M-NTC UFA - 2
Lehkonen, Artturi 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 4	Frost, Morgan 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ C RFA - 2	Nichushkin, Valeri 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 7
Wood, Miles 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG UFA - 6	Colton, Ross 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 4	O'Connor, Logan 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Parise, Zach 800 000 $800 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Olofsson, Fredrik 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Cogliano, Andrew 825 000 $825 000 $ AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Toews, Devon 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Makar, Cale 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Georgiev, Alexandar 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G UFA - 2
Girard, Samuel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4	Manson, Josh 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 3	Kähkönen, Kaapo 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Byram, Bowen 3 850 000 $3 850 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Malinski, Sam 850 000 $850 000 $ DD RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Johnson, Jack 775 000 $775 000 $ DG UFA - 1		Landeskog, Gabriel 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 6
MacDermid, Kurtis 987 500 $987 500 $ DG/DD, AG UFA - 1		Prosvetov, Ivan 775 000 $775 000 $ G UFA - 1
Jones, Caleb 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1		Francouz, Pavel 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Kiviranta, Joel 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG UFA - 1

26 janv. à 9 h 8

sharcuda22

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Not enough for Kahk imo

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26 janv. à 9 h 12

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: sharcuda22

Not enough for Kahk imo

I can see why you say that but I think it might be in the neighborhood if there is no retention. The goalie market looks tough to predict this tdl though.

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26 janv. à 9 h 12

JuanDamienNebraska

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I’d say a 4th for Kahkonen with no retention is pretty spot on, but that’s an overpay for Frost.

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26 janv. à 9 h 15

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska

I’d say a 4th for Kahkonen with no retention is pretty spot on, but that’s an overpay for Frost.

Agree on Frost, but he's been good lately and it may be worth it since his salary is low for next year too. I have mixed feelings.

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26 janv. à 9 h 16

turtlemountain

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This seems pretty reasonable all around to me.

I think Frost at 2C carries some risk, but I like the upside and the cheap contract. $2.1M next year will be helpful once Landy returns

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26 janv. à 9 h 21

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: turtlemountain

This seems pretty reasonable all around to me.

I think Frost at 2C carries some risk, but I like the upside and the cheap contract. $2.1M next year will be helpful once Landy returns

Exactly. The team wouldn't have to move anyone next year and would be in a strong position. If Frost doesn't work out it would surely suck, but if he clicks it could be huge.

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26 janv. à 9 h 21

HockeyManiac95

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Great job.

The Kahkonen trade could definitely happen.

The Frost trade probably wouldn't imo because of where Philly is. They haven't been this good in a while and if I were them I'd be trying to add to the talent rather than sell it, even for an overpay like that. I also think they'd want nothing to do with RyJo, but I'll let Flyers fans give you that answer.

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26 janv. à 9 h 21

sharcuda22

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

I can see why you say that but I think it might be in the neighborhood if there is no retention. The goalie market looks tough to predict this tdl though.

Value wise its fine, but he has been pretty good for us this year and last night Grier was pretty open to keeping him past this season so I’d guess it would take a little more to get him. He has a positive goals saved above expected behind the worst defense in the cap era.

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26 janv. à 9 h 29

Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: sharcuda22

I think it would be smart to keep him in SJ. For what it's worth, Colorado won't be re-signing him, so a reunion could very well still happen.

26 janv. à 9 h 32

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I'd say add Prosvetov or another goalie prospect other than Annunen to the deal (in case of the whole 'waivers thing') and you're about spot on value-wise for Kahkonen. Frost is possibly an overpay now but if he even improves slightly in consistency it won't be, so pretty close as well. That said PHI may still not do it as they're in a playoff position as of now (though could still easily fall back). My only issue with Frost is that's another guy due (RFA or not) at the same time as Bo, Rants, LOC & Georgie (and now Malinski as well!)

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26 janv. à 9 h 32

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I really like the idea of Frost. Sure there is some risk to it obviously. But i think it’s manageable given the potential upside. I think you’ve made a solid offer here if Philly were to sell.

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26 janv. à 19 h 18

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Quoting: LaTornade

I really like the idea of Frost. Sure there is some risk to it obviously. But i think it’s manageable given the potential upside. I think you’ve made a solid offer here if Philly were to sell.

Philly might want more tho considering we dumping johansen contract

26 janv. à 20 h 27

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Can you swap Olausson with Behrens?

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26 janv. à 20 h 32

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Quoting: phillyjabroni

Can you swap Olausson with Behrens?

Yes. Ritchie and Gulyayev are not on the table but any other prospect or combo can be discussed imo.

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