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Montreal trades

Créé par: Kuku8282
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2024
Publié: 19 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Allen, Jake (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Monahan, Sean
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (MTL)
2.
FLA
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $71 038 750 $1 170 000 $6 010 000 $12 461 250 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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835 000 $835 000 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4

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19 janv. à 21 h 58
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Quoting: dgibb10
If you traded for him last year you would have gotten those 150 points for your team, in addition to everything he will do going forward.

Those 150 points are exactly why his value is lower now. Because Edmonton USED that value. For their team. To help THEM win.

Do you go try and sell your car back to the dealership after a year and expect full price?


How could a team know he was gonna score 150? It add to his value, cuz he probed he can do it
19 janv. à 22 h 0
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How could a team know he was gonna score 150? It add to his value, cuz he probed he can do it


Because he scored at that exact same pace 2 years earlier
19 janv. à 22 h 0
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Guhle is better both offensively and defensively. Nemec is awful defensively (wich is normal at his age)


You watched one game with a bad line change and you figured out Nemec? Aren't Habs fans the group who are supposed to get it? Or is homerism that bad up north?
19 janv. à 22 h 0
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Not what the analytics or the eye test says.


Eye test comfirmed Nemec is awful defensively… analytics too. Guhle doesn’t abandon the guy with the puck in an odd man rush. Guhle doesn’t create tons of bad defensive play. We have Barron for that
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19 janv. à 22 h 1
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You watched one game with a bad line change and you figured out Nemec? Aren't Habs fans the group who are supposed to get it? Or is homerism that bad up north?

I watched 15 of Nemec games and he wasn’t really good in any of them
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19 janv. à 22 h 2
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Because he scored at that exact same pace 2 years earlier


And he didn’t achieve it. Having a certain pace is a thing. Achieving 150 pts is another.
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19 janv. à 22 h 4
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Except Nemec is younger, better, more draft pedigree, has more team control and plays a more valuable position.

It’s more like Holtz has the same value to us as Guhle does to you.


Still let pass Slaf for a goal wink
19 janv. à 22 h 8
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
Still let pass Slaf for a goal wink


Great play by Caufield on that.

Slaf is also very good. Hence why I offered Holtz+1st for Slaf.

Actually produces 5v5, big body, pedigree, young. I like him a lot

But hey slaf finally passed Nemec in points since Nemec came up. (scratch that nemec had another point tonight).

Still behind nemec in PPG this year tho. Don't worry he only needs 4 points next game to catch up.

Anaytics are a fair bit behind still tho
19 janv. à 22 h 9
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Quoting: dgibb10
Great play by Caufield on that.

Slaf is also very good. Hence why I offered Holtz+1st for Slaf.

Actually produces 5v5, big body, pedigree, young. I like him a lot

But hey slaf finally passed Nemec in points since Nemec came up. (scratch that nemec had another point tonight).

Still behind nemec in PPG this year tho. Don't worry he only needs 4 points next game to catch up


Start with Mercer + 1st if you want to talk about Slef or Hishier 1vs1 ! Stop downgrading our top prospect or the active top list rental players like Monahan.
19 janv. à 22 h 11
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Start with Mercer + 1st if you want to talk about Slef or Hishier 1vs1 ! Stop downgrading our top prospect or the active top list rental players like Monahan.


There's no combination of assets montreal has that would be worth Nico.

I'd do Mercer 1 for 1 for Slaf. maybe add a 3rd. Unfortunately you burned an ELC year for no reason last year which takes away a fair amount of his value. Should have let him slide
19 janv. à 22 h 14
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Start with Mercer + 1st if you want to talk about Slef or Hishier 1vs1 ! Stop downgrading our top prospect or the active top list rental players like Monahan.


Monahan I simply don't think is a very good hockey player. I think if it was 2005 he'd get a haul, but in today's game I think most teams are too smart to fall for a guy simply existing on a below average power play for a lot of time.

Again, go fleece the rangers. I'd be very happy to see the rangers pay for point totals once again like they did with Tarasenko and Kane
19 janv. à 22 h 15
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There's no combination of assets montreal has that would be worth Nico.

I'd do Mercer 1 for 1 for Slaf. maybe add a 3rd. Unfortunately you burned an ELC year for no reason last year which takes away a fair amount of his value. Should have let him slide


Oh now ELC slide cost a price ... what a bullcrap is that ... geez and we're the one homer or lunatics ... LOL yeah keep dreaming kiddo
19 janv. à 22 h 16
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Guhle is better both offensively and defensively. Nemec is awful defensively (wich is normal at his age)


What?! Nemec has been unreal defensively.
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19 janv. à 22 h 16
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Monahan I simply don't think is a very good hockey player. I think if it was 2005 he'd get a haul, but in today's game I think most teams are too smart to fall for a guy simply existing on a below average power play for a lot of time.

Again, go fleece the rangers. I'd be very happy to see the rangers pay for point totals once again like they did with Tarasenko and Kane


What you think or expect is not MARKET VALUE .... and yet you guys pretend to know how to negotiate.
19 janv. à 22 h 18
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Oh now ELC slide cost a price ... what a bullcrap is that ... geez and we're the one homer or lunatics ... LOL yeah keep dreaming kiddo


Yes. Burning a year of the cheapest contract a player will ever have lowers his value.

Let's compare Nemec vs Slaf

Nemec: 900k, 900k, 900k, RFA, RFA, RFA, RFA
Slaf: 900k, 900k, RFA, RFA, RFA, RFA, UFA

Let's assume they get the same RFA deals.

I doubt Slaf when he hits UFA gets less than 900k
19 janv. à 22 h 19
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What you think or expect is not MARKET VALUE .... and yet you guys pretend to know how to negotiate.


Again, if a team can be convinced to buy monahan, good for you.

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19 janv. à 22 h 22
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Yes. Burning a year of the cheapest contract a player will ever have lowers his value.

Let's compare Nemec vs Slaf

Nemec: 900k, 900k, 900k, RFA, RFA, RFA, RFA
Slaf: 900k, 900k, RFA, RFA, RFA, RFA, UFA

Let's assume they get the same RFA deals.

I doubt Slaf when he hits UFA gets less than 900k


On the flip side…while the slide moves the first RFA, it doesn’t delay the first arb. So there is an argument, for the top top guys (like Nemec, not Slaf) to get ‘em inked long term early.

If they are going to get max term…$8m+ at age 21…they are probably getting more at age 23.
19 janv. à 22 h 24
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On the flip side…while the slide moves the first RFA, it doesn’t delay the first arb. So there is an argument, for the top top guys (like Nemec, not Slaf) to get ‘em inked long term early.

If they are going to get max term…$8m+ at age 21…they are probably getting more at age 23.


Depends on the situation you're in.

NJD is trying to compete in these 3 years. For us I'd rather have the extra ELC year.
Montreal isn't, so they may rather reduce the long term cost.
19 janv. à 22 h 29
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Depends on the situation you're in.

NJD is trying to compete in these 3 years. For us I'd rather have the extra ELC year.
Montreal isn't, so they may rather reduce the long term cost.


Of course. For top guys…i.e, getting Jack and Nico at $15m…vs facing what Vancouver now has to Pettersson
19 janv. à 23 h 9
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Florida immediately rejects. Lundell is too important for us to trade.
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20 janv. à 0 h 44
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I watched 15 of Nemec games and he wasn’t really good in any of them

Far better than alphabet soup or whatever you call that goon up there. But go head and believe whatever u want.
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20 janv. à 1 h 45
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Quoting: dgibb10
Holtz+1st for Slaf
Dach+2nd for Holtz
Newhook+2nd for Holtz
Montembault+Calgary 1st for Holtz+3rd
Calgary 1st+montreal 2nd for Holtz (or Montreals pick if outside of top 10)


All PlayStation trades. Time to get some sun.
20 janv. à 1 h 46
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Quoting: keidongiles
All PlayStation trades. Time to get some sun.


Holtz has more 5v5 points by anyone on Montreal and it isn’t even close.
20 janv. à 1 h 47
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Holtz has more 5v5 points by anyone on Montreal and it isn’t even close.


Then why does he keep eating hotdogs in the pressbox?
20 janv. à 1 h 50
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Then why does he keep eating hotdogs in the pressbox?


He’s played in every single game
 
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