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Island of Misfit Toys

Créé par: Victor24
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2024
Publié: 17 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Johansen, Ryan (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Col is not retaining
COL
2.
PIT
    To retain 2MM on Johansen
    CHI
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
    3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
    3.
    PIT
    1. Tavares, John (5 500 000 $ retained)
    Détails additionnels:
    Since Tor doesn't seem to want him
    TOR
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2024
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    2025
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    2026
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de SJS
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de CHI
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2083 500 000 $81 779 342 $0 $0 $1 720 658 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    775 000 $775 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    C, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
    AD, C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    825 000 $825 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    775 000 $775 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    800 000 $800 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    775 000 $775 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Équipe de réserve
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    850 000 $850 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1

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    17 janv. à 11 h 31
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    Why would either team do this?

    TOR won't retain that for two years when they're trying to win a cup.

    Colorado probably can't afford to send Johansen away when Landeskog is still on LTIR, Lehkonen is on LTIR and now Nichushkin is in NHLPA player program.

    They need forwards.
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    17 janv. à 11 h 31
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    If the Hawks have an extra retention spot remaining at the TDL then sure why not.
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    17 janv. à 11 h 35
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    Quoting: Snowhawk18
    If the Hawks have an extra retention spot remaining at the TDL then sure why not.


    Ryjo is signed through next season. So if the Hawks do this, that leaves them only one retention slot for next season. I don't think they do it.
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    17 janv. à 12 h 28
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    Quoting: Hawksguy81
    Ryjo is signed through next season. So if the Hawks do this, that leaves them only one retention slot for next season. I don't think they do it.


    I figured a 4th for this year and a 3rd + 4th for next year.
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    17 janv. à 12 h 34
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    Quoting: pens1991
    Why would either team do this?

    TOR won't retain that for two years when they're trying to win a cup.

    Colorado probably can't afford to send Johansen away when Landeskog is still on LTIR, Lehkonen is on LTIR and now Nichushkin is in NHLPA player program.

    They need forwards.


    If Tor wants to move on from Tavares, ship him over. When your enemy is making mistakes, don't interrupt him.

    Better to retain 5.5MM than have 11MM on the books if they don't want the guy.

    Tavares would be a perfect center for that line.

    It also shows Guentzel and Crosby that the team is going for it.

    Most Col fans I see or talk to (and some media outlets) want him gone. They believe he is replaceable at the TDL and internally and for 4MM in cap space, they would toss him.
    17 janv. à 12 h 34
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    17 janv. à 13 h 18
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    Quoting: Victor24
    If Tor wants to move on from Tavares, ship him over. When your enemy is making mistakes, don't interrupt him.

    Better to retain 5.5MM than have 11MM on the books if they don't want the guy.

    Tavares would be a perfect center for that line.

    It also shows Guentzel and Crosby that the team is going for it.

    Most Col fans I see or talk to (and some media outlets) want him gone. They believe he is replaceable at the TDL and internally and for 4MM in cap space, they would toss him.


    The Leafs are still a team very much in full win now mode, I don't think burying 5.5M for this year and next is attractive to a team that's already constrained by just a few contracts. Sure they could then go out and trade for someone with the $5.5M free, but I just don't see it and knowing them they'd probably want a stiff return to retain that much.

    I also don't think the org is the one that doesn't want him, it's just the fans and that trash media.

    Again, don't think colorado wants to give away more forwards right now with their list of injuries, regardless of whether they add or not.
    17 janv. à 13 h 34
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    I figured a 4th for this year and a 3rd + 4th for next year.


    While that might be fair value, I doubt the Hawks would leave themselves with just one retention slot for the '25 TDL for a couple of mid round picks.
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    17 janv. à 13 h 43
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    Quoting: pens1991
    The Leafs are still a team very much in full win now mode, I don't think burying 5.5M for this year and next is attractive to a team that's already constrained by just a few contracts. Sure they could then go out and trade for someone with the $5.5M free, but I just don't see it and knowing them they'd probably want a stiff return to retain that much.

    I also don't think the org is the one that doesn't want him, it's just the fans and that trash media.

    Again, don't think colorado wants to give away more forwards right now with their list of injuries, regardless of whether they add or not.


    Sure. But IF Col and Tor wanted out of these contracts, I would think the Pens would be interested.
    17 janv. à 13 h 43
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    Quoting: Hawksguy81
    While that might be fair value, I doubt the Hawks would leave themselves with just one retention slot for the '25 TDL for a couple of mid round picks.


    Totally understandable
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    17 janv. à 14 h 13
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    Quoting: Hawksguy81
    Ryjo is signed through next season. So if the Hawks do this, that leaves them only one retention slot for next season. I don't think they do it.


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    17 janv. à 18 h 15
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    Avs decline. They aren't paying that to move RyJo.
    17 janv. à 18 h 44
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    Quoting: TJTwolf
    Avs decline. They aren't paying that to move RyJo.


    A 3rd and a 4th is a low price to pay to get 4MM for the next two years if you no longer want the player.
    17 janv. à 18 h 54
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    Quoting: Victor24
    A 3rd and a 4th is a low price to pay to get 4MM for the next two years if you no longer want the player.


    As it happens the Avs actually need RyJo right now. RyJo also still has value so no, they aren't paying that to move him.
    17 janv. à 19 h 56
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    As it happens the Avs actually need RyJo right now. RyJo also still has value so no, they aren't paying that to move him.


    Fair enough. But I see many Avs fans still posting ACGMs trading him away.
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    17 janv. à 20 h 1
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    Fair enough. But I see many Avs fans still posting ACGMs trading him away.


    Certainly they might trade him away. It's kind of an 'ideal world' scenario on here for Avs fans when trading him (with a replacement 2C in place). Once everyone is fit and healthy and if they can find a 2C then it could (and probably should) be on the cards. In that scenario they may have to pay a little to someone to move him. I still doubt it would be that much as he does have value still to the right team. It's more that he was a cheap gamble for the Avs (in what they gave up for him) but it simply hasn't really been a good fit.
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