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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 31 déc. 2023
Publié: 1 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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1 janv. à 10 h 43
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McLeod isn’t being moved for that or anything in that realm .
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McLeod isn’t being moved for that or anything in that realm .


Devils accept. A guy with 14 points isn't getting you a haul lol
1 janv. à 10 h 51
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Devils accept. A guy with 14 points isn't getting you a haul lol


Knies for Cal Foote.

After all, a guy with 14 points isn’t getting you a haul
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1 janv. à 11 h 9
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Yeah it's clear you've never seen McLeod play or his deployment. He's not going to be off the Devils unless he's indicted.
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To the new jersey fans on here. This guy is a joke, don't pay him any mind.
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1 janv. à 11 h 31
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Quoting: dgibb10
McLeod isn’t being moved for that or anything in that realm .


Quoting: Brad_Treliving
Devils accept. A guy with 14 points isn't getting you a haul lol


Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Knies for Cal Foote.

After all, a guy with 14 points isn’t getting you a haul


Ok relax now kids.

McLeod is reportedly available and Devils fans need to tone the hype down on him. He’s a mid 20’s 3rd line player that’s good on faceoffs and good defensively but not much more. Those aren’t overly valued and can be found around the league (minus the faceoffs but McLeod also hasn’t taken a lot of draws either).

That being said, straight up the value of Robertson for McLeod is fine. Both generally worth around a 3rd round pick - but the fit of the swap isn’t there. New Jersey will likely use McLeod as part of a package for either a defender or goalie but it won’t be the star guy they want.
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Quoting: Brad_Treliving
Devils accept. A guy with 14 points isn't getting you a haul lol


A guy who’s still a part time NHLer 4 years after being drafted has little to no value
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
Ok relax now kids.

McLeod is reportedly available and Devils fans need to tone the hype down on him. He’s a mid 20’s 3rd line player that’s good on faceoffs and good defensively but not much more. Those aren’t overly valued and can be found around the league (minus the faceoffs but McLeod also hasn’t taken a lot of draws either).

That being said, straight up the value of Robertson for McLeod is fine. Both generally worth around a 3rd round pick - but the fit of the swap isn’t there. New Jersey will likely use McLeod as part of a package for either a defender or goalie but it won’t be the star guy they want.


McLeod has significantly more value than a 3rd. Quality centers are the hardest thing to find.

The best faceoff man in hockey and a fantastic shutdown center who’s now finding a scoring touch at just 1.4 mill+RFA control costs you. Big
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Quoting: Brad_Treliving
Devils accept. A guy with 14 points isn't getting you a haul lol


Scores at a better rate 5v5 than John Tavares btw
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McLeod has significantly more value than a 3rd. Quality centers are the hardest thing to find.

The best faceoff man in hockey and a fantastic shutdown center who’s now finding a scoring touch at just 1.4 mill+RFA control costs you. Big


Get over this “best faceoff man in the league” BS. He’s not. Just because he has the highest win percentage doesn’t mean he’s the best - a faceoff win is a highly subjective stat in the first place. But McLeod isn’t even in the top 25 in faceoffs taken or faceoffs won.

You Devils fans are overhyping a 4th line centre to the extreme. He’s not THAT valuable.
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Scores at a better rate 5v5 than John Tavares btw


Tavares has 22 even strength points. McLeod has 14 total points.
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
Ok relax now kids.

McLeod is reportedly available and Devils fans need to tone the hype down on him. He’s a mid 20’s 3rd line player that’s good on faceoffs and good defensively but not much more. Those aren’t overly valued and can be found around the league (minus the faceoffs but McLeod also hasn’t taken a lot of draws either).

That being said, straight up the value of Robertson for McLeod is fine. Both generally worth around a 3rd round pick - but the fit of the swap isn’t there. New Jersey will likely use McLeod as part of a package for either a defender or goalie but it won’t be the star guy they want.


True. I'm wrong.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
True. I'm wrong.


I know you were joking with your comment, I just included it for the value talk aspect of the conversation
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
Get over this “best faceoff man in the league” BS. He’s not. Just because he has the highest win percentage doesn’t mean he’s the best - a faceoff win is a highly subjective stat in the first place. But McLeod isn’t even in the top 25 in faceoffs taken or faceoffs won.

You Devils fans are overhyping a 4th line centre to the extreme. He’s not THAT valuable.


The devils send him out for the most important faceoffs every time despite having Hischier, Haula, Lazar, Mercer and Tierney all winning faceoffs at a high rate.

He’s been fantastic in the dot for years. It’s not just the %s, it’s watching him play.

He elevates everyone he plays with, has excelled at every spot in the lineup he’s been put in, fits with the system perfectly, and is finally finding a scoring touch. He also took a discount to stay in jersey.

With no realistic replacement on the roster or in the pipeline, I would need a haul to move him.

An AHL tweener who has no place on the NJD roster (because he can’t fit in a bottom line defensive checking skill set, and doesn’t play over any of Haula Mercer Meier Holtz Hughes Bratt Hischier Palat Toffoli in the top 9) isn’t gonna get McLeod or even get discussions started
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A guy who’s still a part time NHLer 4 years after being drafted has little to no value


You mean the guy that has 3 less points with 12 less games played than your centre?

This trade is what I like to call a "change of scenery" trade. If you want actual value back, are you getting anything more than a 5th round pick? lol
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Tavares has 22 even strength points. McLeod has 14 total points.


McLeod has 13 5v5 points
Tavares has 15 5v5 points
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Quoting: Brad_Treliving
You mean the guy that has 3 less points with 12 less games played than your centre?


A tweener scorer who has no place in our top 9 and can’t fill a role on our bottom line is valueless to us. Healthy scratch
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A tweener scorer who has no place in our top 9 and can’t fill a role on our bottom line is valueless to us. Healthy scratch


You mean the guy that has 3 less points with 12 less games played than your centre?
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The devils send him out for the most important faceoffs every time despite having Hischier, Haula, Lazar, Mercer and Tierney all winning faceoffs at a high rate.

He’s been fantastic in the dot for years. It’s not just the %s, it’s watching him play.

He elevates everyone he plays with, has excelled at every spot in the lineup he’s been put in, fits with the system perfectly, and is finally finding a scoring touch. He also took a discount to stay in jersey.

With no realistic replacement on the roster or in the pipeline, I would need a haul to move him.

An AHL tweener who has no place on the NJD roster (because he can’t fit in a bottom line defensive checking skill set, and doesn’t play over any of Haula Mercer Meier Holtz Hughes Bratt Hischier Palat Toffoli in the top 9) isn’t gonna get McLeod or even get discussions started


If you actually took the time to read what I originally posted instead of being ignorantly bias.. you’d see that I agreed that Robertson for McLeod doesn’t make sense for New Jersey BUT I said the value is fine. Stop overhyping a 4th line centre - they’re replaceable and not that valuable.
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If you actually took the time to read what I originally posted instead of being ignorantly bias.. you’d see that I agreed that Robertson for McLeod doesn’t make sense for New Jersey BUT I said the value is fine. Stop overhyping a 4th line centre - they’re replaceable and not that valuable.


They are very difficult to replace. If he was a winger I’d agree. Wingers are very easy to replace. It’s not easy to find a center. How many centers in the upcoming free agent class are better than McLeod?
In my opinion the list is quite short:
Elias Lindholm-Seeking 9 million dollars into his late 30s
Chandler Stephenson: seeking a bag also probably into his mid 30s. Hasn’t been better than Mikey this year

That’s the list
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Quoting: Brad_Treliving
You mean the guy that has 3 less points with 12 less games played than your centre?


McLeod dominates and drives play, is the best faceoff man in the league, kills penalties and is fantastic defensively. Robertson can’t get a regular role over Ryan reaves and Noah gregor
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McLeod dominates and drives play, is the best faceoff man in the league, kills penalties and is fantastic defensively. Robertson can’t get a regular role over Ryan reaves and Noah gregor


You mean the guy that has 3 less points with 12 less games played than your centre?
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You mean the guy that has 3 less points with 12 less games played than your centre?


You broke him dgibb😂
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You broke him dgibb😂


I mean all I'm doing is just stating facts. Are my facts wrong?
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I mean all I'm doing is just stating facts. Are my facts wrong?


Lmao
 
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