Seeler isn’t a poor man’s Girard. Girard is a 25yr old top 4 dman that regularly scores 30pts and since when did a a guy with a $4m cap hit on pace for 24 goals become a cap dump? I’ll give you he’s the contract COL would probably want to move short term. Hell I’ll even give you Girard has a lower value because of the PAP, but Frost isn’t exactly setting the world on fire is he. PHI would have to add to make a trade like that if COL is going to accept.

a weak point right now for the flyers is their dept at center and with your trades you just made it worse. cates is a nice player but he is a 4th liner 3rd at best. Turcotte has never played in the NHL and my guess he won't and it seems no team wants Johansen

Avs decline

The Kings aren't going to trade their best forward prospect for a depth defenseman.