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if Larks is out long term

Créé par: C_LGRW71
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 12 déc. 2023
Publié: 12 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
DET
  1. Lindholm, Elias (2 425 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Berggren, Jonatan
  2. Rasmussen, Michael
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $82 783 473 $0 $3 350 000 $716 527 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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825 000 $825 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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12 déc. 2023 à 10 h 24
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Calgary counters with:

BOS's 2024-1st (Super Late) + Marco Kasper (Ain't Exactly Killing It in the AHL) + one of either Berggren/Rasmussen/Veleno/Dylan James/Andrew Gibson/Noah Dower Nilsson
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Lindholm 50% Retained
12 déc. 2023 à 10 h 24
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As good a package as any. CGY accepts, DET makes the playoffs
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12 déc. 2023 à 10 h 32
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Calgary counters with:

BOS's 2024-1st (Super Late) + Marco Kasper (Ain't Exactly Killing It in the AHL) + one of either Berggren/Rasmussen/Veleno/Dylan James/Andrew Gibson/Noah Dower Nilsson
FOR
Lindholm 50% Retained


I don't think the underperformance of any Griffin's prospects are going to be anything of concern, given how it seems to be the case with all NA pro-newbies (Kasper, Wallinder, Lombardi) whereas the players who were in pro-NA last year (Johansson, Edvinsson, Cossa) are some of the best players on the team.
12 déc. 2023 à 10 h 32
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As good a package as any. CGY accepts, DET makes the playoffs


I'd take this like all hell if I'm Detroit.
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12 déc. 2023 à 10 h 32
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Larkin should be back next week, IIRC.
12 déc. 2023 à 10 h 40
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Remind me the conditions of the DeBrincat deal? Detroit renting Lindholm with the potential to buy long term makes some sense
12 déc. 2023 à 10 h 42
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I don't think the underperformance of any Griffin's prospects are going to be anything of concern, given how it seems to be the case with all NA pro-newbies (Kasper, Wallinder, Lombardi) whereas the players who were in pro-NA last year (Johansson, Edvinsson, Cossa) are some of the best players on the team.

Yeah, I say the same thing about Lindholm given his lack of production this season...

Austria isn't known for producing Quality NHL Players, so Kasper's a gamble AFAIC. I'm very familiar with Cossa. I live in Edmonton and watched him play with the Oil Kings
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12 déc. 2023 à 10 h 46
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Yzerman said himself he's not trading assets for guys who don't fit the rebuild, meaning players older than Larkin.

We traded a 1st, 4th, Kubalik, and a lifetime AHL player for Debrincat, who had control in his RFA status and fits our rebuild much better. Why would we move this package for someone older who just had the same season as Cat?
12 déc. 2023 à 10 h 51
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Yeah, I say the same thing about Lindholm given his lack of production this season...

Austria isn't known for producing Quality NHL Players, so Kasper's a gamble AFAIC. I'm very familiar with Cossa. I live in Edmonton and watched him play with the Oil Kings


Don't think country of origin is what directly affects play.
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12 déc. 2023 à 11 h 6
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Yzerman said himself he's not trading assets for guys who don't fit the rebuild, meaning players older than Larkin.

We traded a 1st, 4th, Kubalik, and a lifetime AHL player for Debrincat, who had control in his RFA status and fits our rebuild much better. Why would we move this package for someone older who just had the same season as Cat?

Because Selke Quality Right Shot Centres who can Score 40+ Goals and Produce 1.00PPG+ are Extremely Rare and Hard to Come By and DET should be coming out of their Rebuild and adding Valuable Veteran Pieces to Contend is what I’d say

Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTERw
Don't think country of origin is what directly affects play.

Of course not lol, just an observation for consideration

I prefer North American Players, just a personal preference is all
12 déc. 2023 à 11 h 14
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Calgary counters with:

BOS's 2024-1st (Super Late)


You obviously have no clue because Detroit gets to choose which pick Ottawa gets it's either Bostons 2024 1st or Detroit's 2024 1st. Since Boston has the 2nd most points in the league. I think it's safe to say Ottawa will be getting Boston's 2024 1st.
12 déc. 2023 à 11 h 23
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You obviously have no clue because Detroit gets to choose which pick Ottawa gets it's either Bostons 2024 1st or Detroit's 2024 1st. Since Boston has the 2nd most points in the league. I think it's safe to say Ottawa will be getting Boston's 2024 1st.

Okay, way to be an ass about it though….

You’re right, I don’t follow or care about conditions on picks, I’m not a nerd or loser like you. You’re cool, not lol
12 déc. 2023 à 11 h 47
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Because Selke Quality Right Shot Centres who can Score 40+ Goals and Produce 1.00PPG+ are Extremely Rare and Hard to Come By and DET should be coming out of their Rebuild and adding Valuable Veteran Pieces to Contend is what I’d say


Lindholm did that once and had Gaudreau and Tkachuk on his wings. He's a UFA that doesn't fit Detroit's window, and his production is much more likely to line up with last season than the previous, which are great, but not 40+ goals and 1PPG. We aren't trying to win the cup this year. Cat was a controllable 40+ goal scorer and the return was significantly less than what is in this trade. It's just not gunna happen at that price for a guy outside the rebuild window.
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12 déc. 2023 à 11 h 51
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I could see these two make a deal if Larkin is out long term. I could see Detroit making a push for Lindholm. Seems to be pretty fair value 👍
14 déc. 2023 à 0 h 19
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Calgary counters with:

BOS's 2024-1st (Super Late) + Marco Kasper (Ain't Exactly Killing It in the AHL) + one of either Berggren/Rasmussen/Veleno/Dylan James/Andrew Gibson/Noah Dower Nilsson
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Lindholm 50% Retained


Detroit counters with: Thank you for your consideration, if you would like to come back to the table later we will gladly offer two seconds, Berggren, Maatta (as you might need some more LD soon) and Eemil Viro. If that's not of interest we would consider a counteroffer, but we understand you may be looking for some more value elsewhere. We look forward to any future business we can conduct and wish Mr. Lindholm the best of luck for the remainder of this season and wish him well in his contract negotiations this summer.
 
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