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Équipe: 2023-24 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 8 déc. 2023
Publié: 9 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3283 500 000 $80 109 416 $0 $332 500 $3 390 584 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
935 833 $935 833 $
AG, C
RFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
9 150 000 $9 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Bruins de Boston
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
810 000 $810 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
950 000 $950 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
758 333 $758 333 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
816 667 $816 667 $
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Capitals de Washington
825 000 $825 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
785 000 $785 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
2 700 000 $2 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
805 000 $805 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $
G
RFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
825 000 $825 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 333 333 $2 333 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
875 000 $875 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4

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9 déc. 2023 à 17 h 10
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That's quite low on the Hurricanes... we'll figure it out... we have one of the best coaches in the league, the best d-core, and a superstar... we'll be more than okay
9 déc. 2023 à 17 h 34
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That's quite low on the Hurricanes... we'll figure it out... we have one of the best coaches in the league, the best d-core, and a superstar... we'll be more than okay


I don’t think Carolina has a superstar. They have some star level players like Aho and Slavin, but I wouldn’t say either are a superstar
9 déc. 2023 à 17 h 36
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I don’t think Carolina has a superstar. They have some star level players like Aho and Slavin, but I wouldn’t say either are a superstar


Aho is a superstar... A PPG player in a system that suppresses offense while being a well above average defensive forward and being able to be lethal in all situations... how is that not a superstar?
9 déc. 2023 à 17 h 49
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Aho is a superstar... A PPG player in a system that suppresses offense while being a well above average defensive forward and being able to be lethal in all situations... how is that not a superstar?


A superstar should be top 5 in their position at minimum, otherwise you risk watering down the definition - not everyone gets a superstar badge. Doubt Aho is even a top 10 centre
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9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 4
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Aho is a superstar... A PPG player in a system that suppresses offense while being a well above average defensive forward and being able to be lethal in all situations... how is that not a superstar?


Aho has been an average to below average defensive forward for most of his career and hovers right around a PPG. For him to become a superstar to me he’s either need to become a Selke level forward with his current offensive play or a ~100 point scorer

Would you consider guys like Brady Tkachuk, Zibanejad, Hischier, Keller, Buchnevich, and Fiala superstars? Those are guys that are pretty similar level players to Aho, and are all star players rather than superstar players imo (some people will say Tkachuk is a superstar but I personally think he’s a bit overrated due to his last name)

For me a superstar you have to be around a top 20, maybe push it to top 30 player in the league. Aho isn’t in there
9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 7
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A superstar should be top 5 in their position at minimum, otherwise you risk watering down the definition - not everyone gets a superstar badge. Doubt Aho is even a top 10 centre


I do think there are probably more than 5 centers and more than 5 defensemen that are superstars, but I agree with you for the most part
9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 14
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Quoting: seanrushton
Aho is a superstar... A PPG player in a system that suppresses offense while being a well above average defensive forward and being able to be lethal in all situations... how is that not a superstar?


Star player yes. He is not a superstar though. As others have said he would either need to become Bergeron/prime Toews or a consistent 90+ point player. He's a top 15 center, not top 10.
9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 30
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Aho has been an average to below average defensive forward for most of his career and hovers right around a PPG. For him to become a superstar to me he’s either need to become a Selke level forward with his current offensive play or a ~100 point scorer

Would you consider guys like Brady Tkachuk, Zibanejad, Hischier, Keller, Buchnevich, and Fiala superstars? Those are guys that are pretty similar level players to Aho, and are all star players rather than superstar players imo (some people will say Tkachuk is a superstar but I personally think he’s a bit overrated due to his last name)

For me a superstar you have to be around a top 20, maybe push it to top 30 player in the league. Aho isn’t in there


Tkachuk, Zibanejad, Hischier, Keller, Buchnevich, and Fiala all play in much more offensively friendly system than Aho... on pretty much any other team Aho would be a 40+ goal scorer putting up 90-100 points a season. Zibanejad and Hischier would probably be high-20s or low-30's in goals and probably in the 70s in points playing on the Canes. It's not fair to Aho to use the same metrics for superstardom considering the systems advantage most "superstars" have
9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 32
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Star player yes. He is not a superstar though. As others have said he would either need to become Bergeron/prime Toews or a consistent 90+ point player. He's a top 15 center, not top 10.


He would put 90 to 100 points on pretty much any other team... it's just that RBA's system is so defensively focused. He also contributes in a lot of way that doesn't get noticed mainly on the defensive end... plus determining whether players are superstars based on just one attribute is absolutely stupid
9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 44
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He would put 90 to 100 points on pretty much any other team... it's just that RBA's system is so defensively focused


No he probably wouldn't, he would probably just more consistently hit the 80 point mark. Probably not 90+ though. He's the same caliber player as guys like Hintz and Zibanejad
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9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 46
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No he probably wouldn't, he would probably just more consistently hit the 80 point mark. Probably not 90+ though. He's the same caliber player as guys like Hintz and Zibanejad


He probably would because he would be able to get a lot more points of the PP (the hurricanes pp has been awful the last few years due to coaching problems and not a good enough talent) and be allowed to be more creative in the opponent's zone. Hintz and Zibanejad also get carried a lot by the linemates that they play with Robertson and Panarin unlike Aho who doesn't have such a linemate to rely on (Teuvo and Jarvis are both good overall players but aren't on the same level as Robertson and Panarin)
9 déc. 2023 à 18 h 57
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From here on out in terms of point %
LAK, VGK, Dallas, NJD, Avs, Edmonton, Leafs, Boston, Carolina, NYR, TBL, Florida, Winnipeg, Van, NSH, NYI, AZ, Det, Minn, Pitt. That's my top 20
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 1
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From here on out in terms of point %
LAK, VGK, Dallas, NJD, Avs, Edmonton, Leafs, Boston, Carolina, NYR, TBL, Florida, Winnipeg, Van, NSH, NYI, AZ, Det, Minn, Pitt. That's my top 20


I'd put the Hurricanes 3-4 spots up but other wise this is a very good list... they've had a brutal schedule to start the year in terms of two trips to the West Coast but beside those two trips they've been themselves
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9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 6
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I'd put the Hurricanes 3-4 spots up but other wise this is a very good list... they've had a brutal schedule to start the year in terms of two trips to the West Coast but beside those two trips they've been themselves


I haven't gotten to watch a lot of canes hockey this year. 9th in pts % from here on out is certainly strong, and imo that's all hammers of teams i have ahead of them. But I have faith the canes will figure it out. All ya really need is 1 of your 3 goalies to get hot
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9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 8
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He probably would because he would be able to get a lot more points of the PP (the hurricanes pp has been awful the last few years due to coaching problems and not a good enough talent) and be allowed to be more creative in the opponent's zone. Hintz and Zibanejad also get carried a lot by the linemates that they play with Robertson and Panarin unlike Aho who doesn't have such a linemate to rely on (Teuvo and Jarvis are both good overall players but aren't on the same level as Robertson and Panarin)


Hurricanes PP has been middle of the pack the last 3 years, and very good the 2 years before that
23/24: 16th
22/23: 20th
21/22: 13th
20/21: 2nd
19/20: 8th
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 14
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Hurricanes PP has been middle of the pack the last 3 years, and very good the 2 years before that
23/24: 16th
22/23: 20th
21/22: 13th
20/21: 2nd
19/20: 8th


Yes but most of these top 30 players are on top 10 PP and accumulate a lot of points from it
9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 15
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I haven't gotten to watch a lot of canes hockey this year. 9th in pts % from here on out is certainly strong, and imo that's all hammers of teams i have ahead of them. But I have faith the canes will figure it out. All ya really need is 1 of your 3 goalies to get hot


It'll probably end up being Kocketkov... he looks so good at times he just needs to be more consistent
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9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 16
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It'll probably end up being Kocketkov... he looks so good at times he just needs to be more consistent


imo you should sell low on Pyotr and send him to New Jersey for a 4th round pick tbh
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9 déc. 2023 à 19 h 18
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imo you should sell low on Pyotr and send him to New Jersey for a 4th round pick tbh


hahaha... not a chance that happens
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hahaha... not a chance that happens


Worth a shot
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He probably would because he would be able to get a lot more points of the PP (the hurricanes pp has been awful the last few years due to coaching problems and not a good enough talent) and be allowed to be more creative in the opponent's zone. Hintz and Zibanejad also get carried a lot by the linemates that they play with Robertson and Panarin unlike Aho who doesn't have such a linemate to rely on (Teuvo and Jarvis are both good overall players but aren't on the same level as Robertson and Panarin)


Thats line choices he should be playing with Svech as Svech is the best offensive player on the Hurricanes. Regardless that is not enough to boost him in points to 90+, max 85.
 
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