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Packages for another top 6 forward

Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 4 déc. 2023
Publié: 4 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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VAN
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
Détails additionnels:
Around the level of value of the Horvat package, Buchneivch had pervouisly offered by the rangers for Horvat so feels far to use a comp
STL
  1. Klimovich, Danila
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (VAN)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (VAN)
2.
PHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
2024 1st round pick (VAN)
Klimovich, Danila
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SJS
    2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
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    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 12
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    I don’t think there is a world where Konecny return that low
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 25
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    I don’t think there is a world where Konecny return that low


    A 1st a 3rd and a decent prospect is certainly not low for a winger that's only been over a pp/g once in his career
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 29
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    You’re shopping in the wrong market with those prices.
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    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 30
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    Teams would be all over TK/Buchnevich for a late 1st + decent prospect. I think it takes a 1st in the 10-20 range added to a very good prospect
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 33
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    You’re shopping in the wrong market with those prices.

    Scoring wingers don't go as much as fans on this site would like to believe look at the debrincat trade as an example who is younger and a proven 40 goal scoerer
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 34
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    Quoting: HShockey
    Teams would be all over TK/Buchnevich for a late 1st + decent prospect. I think it takes a 1st in the 10-20 range added to a very good prospect


    Disagree this is inline with the debrincat trade Horvat ect wingers have less value than this site wants to admit
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 37
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    Blues decline. Nothing really appealing about the package other than the late first and even that is just ok
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 38
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    Quoting: CanucksFansRtheSmartest
    Scoring wingers don't go as much as fans on this site would like to believe look at the debrincat trade as an example who is younger and a proven 40 goal scoerer


    Debrincat wasn’t signing with the team, nor did he have 1.5 years of control on very team friendly deals like TK and Buch do. You’re offering rental prices for guys who aren’t yet rentals. Hence you’re shopping in the wrong market
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    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 40
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    Quoting: CanucksFansRtheSmartest
    A 1st a 3rd and a decent prospect is certainly not low for a winger that's only been over a pp/g once in his career


    A late first and a B prospect is definitely low. Philly would be asking for a least 2 first and a second
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 49
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    Quoting: AC14
    Debrincat wasn’t signing with the team, nor did he have 1.5 years of control on very team friendly deals like TK and Buch do. You’re offering rental prices for guys who aren’t yet rentals. Hence you’re shopping in the wrong market

    5.5x2 for a guy that has only been over a Pp/g once in his career and never over 65 point scorer really isn't a team friendly deal its market price, I'd look a guy like Meier for the PB deal Meier went for a late 1st a decent prospect and a decent roster player in Zutterland but Merier was coming back as a rfa and at 50% retained with other minor assets, I'd easily argue my proposed package above is around the same as the NJ Merier deal 1st = 1st 2> Mukhamadullin Zutterland = Klimvoich and two 4ths. The package is inline with what other wingers have gone for recently, no teams have the cap to take on a big contract right now so well PB is certainly a good player at almost 6mil I'd argue its very team friendly, team friendly sure but definitely not very team friendly
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 49
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    A late first and a B prospect is definitely low. Philly would be asking for a least 2 first and a second


    No team is giving them that
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 50
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    Quoting: Tennisman142
    Blues decline. Nothing really appealing about the package other than the late first and even that is just ok


    That's a little understandable what would the blues reasonably be looking for?
    4 déc. 2023 à 21 h 53
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    Quoting: CanucksFansRtheSmartest
    5.5x2 for a guy that has only been over a Pp/g once in his career and never over 65 point scorer really isn't a team friendly deal its market price, I'd look a guy like Meier for the PB deal Meier went for a late 1st a decent prospect and a decent roster player in Zutterland but Merier was coming back as a rfa and at 50% retained with other minor assets, I'd easily argue my proposed package above is around the same as the NJ Merier deal 1st = 1st 2> Mukhamadullin Zutterland = Klimvoich and two 4ths. The package is inline with what other wingers have gone for recently, no teams have the cap to take on a big contract right now so well PB is certainly a good player at almost 6mil I'd argue its very team friendly, team friendly sure but definitely not very team friendly


    I would argue that your package isn’t close to what Meier returned. Klimovich is closer to Ohkutiok than Muk or Zetterlund. Your 2nd also isn’t conditional as the one in the Meier trade was. So unless you are of the belief that 2nd + 4th + 4th is = to Muk + Zetterlund + 2nd with conditions possibly making it a first then I don’t see the comparison.
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    4 déc. 2023 à 22 h 32
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    No team is giving them that


    A lot of teams would be willing to give them that
    5 déc. 2023 à 9 h 38
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    Quoting: CanucksFansRtheSmartest
    That's a little understandable what would the blues reasonably be looking for?


    A first and a good defensive prospect at least. A similar trade to Timo Meier
     
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